anybody ever replace your rear bump stops with the energy suspension part number 9.9104r?
the stock bump stops are two bolt mounting and the e.s. stops are one bolt in the middle.
just wondered what was involved in making the switch.
thanx
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anybody ever replace your rear bump stops with the energy suspension part number 9.9104r?
the stock bump stops are two bolt mounting and the e.s. stops are one bolt in the middle.
just wondered what was involved in making the switch.
thanx
6th & 7th pic from the top...:_wrench:
http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...ight=big+beast
Didn't look the part number you posted but I am guessing you mean this:
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/Bumpstop.JPG
After a few hits over a couple years the metal plate started to deform a bit causing a crack in the poly - using a 1x3 steel tube spacer rather than the OEM bump stop backing piece would work better long term. They work great with oversize tires but big offset mixed with big tires need more of a spacer to keep the tire off the cladding when flexing.
Amateur and traitor! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Ldub
thanx ldub,,thats what i neededQuote:
Originally Posted by Ldub
Meh...:_confusedQuote:
Originally Posted by ZEUS
It was closer to the top of the list when I searched, so you can add lazy too...:laughing:
Remember, these are technically not bump stops but actually spring helpers and are there to help control roll resistance not suspension travel, per se. Just an FYI.
With that in mind, the bumps should in theory, be extended the same amount as the lift?Quote:
Originally Posted by blacksambo
I had to extend mine on the rodeo so my wider tires and wheels didnt rub.
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/7...5081235in2.jpg
Cant say it does much for handling considering the weird handling I have now after snapping my rear sway bar on 7 mile rim this year.
That can be repaired with JB weld & carbon fiber duct tape...:yesgray:.:rotate:.:laughing:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gizmo42
LOL. Still havent decided if I'm going to replace it. Handles a little weird but not horrible. The back end tries to roll while the front stays flat-ish.
I'm going through the same thing with the front sway bar. My sway bar links were shot and making alot of noise over bumps so I removed the bar to source replacement links. Now I've been driving around without it for a few weeks and its fine. Theres a little more body roll without the sway bar but the VX rides over bumps much smoother.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gizmo42
There's a high rise 4-Runner in my neighborhood that has his sway bars removed. I swear that his side mirrors scrape the pavement when he corners.
ok got the bump stops on.since i dont have a lift and was just replacing the original stops i wanted to keep as close to original height as i could.the e.s. ones are a little bit longer.
so i just took the old ones off and drilled a single hole in the factory mount location and with a bit of messing around with holding the nut with a wrench in side the channel i got em on.
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...1312665250.jpg
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...1312665248.jpg
they sit right on the rear axle.does that mean my springs are too weak?my original stops where all tore up.if so anyone know anywhere i can get new springs?
Many many VXers found the stock rear bump stops were within 1/2" of the axle, and thus, the extremely slamming/jarring effect in the rear when we hit bumps. Some, like me, chose to cut the rears in half to gain more distance. Dramatically improved, the ride, along with the Rancho 9000XLS shocks.
Try them and see how it rides. Looks like they might be collapsible like the ones on my rodeo. Mine sit about 1" off the axle but I dont feel it until it fully collapses.
Nah. I would roll with what you have going on there until you really plan on making a lot of changes. Looks great for now. If you want to add larger tires, lift, etc, then I would worry about stiffer taller springs, but until then, good job :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by vxfocus
ok after a couple days of driving i need a kidney replacement!wow it rides rough,like it has a fixed axle with the bump stops resting right on the axle it doesnt let the coil springs do there job.
so i need some input from anyone who is running the ome 913s on what the ride quality is compared to the stock springs...its gotta be better than what i have now.
i was also thinking about the Set of Daystar Spring Spacers to give me about an inch and a half lift to get the stops of the axles
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...pacers_1sm.jpg
I cut my stops and added the Daystar spacers after installing 265/60/18's on 8" wide, -2mm offset rims. Those spacers are like $35-40 shipped, if I were you I would order a set and try them out first - they may very well be all you need.
Low risk, big reward IMHO.
I did just the spacers and it made a big difference and was easy to do, since it was the second time I had done it.
:) Thanks again Billy. :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowgizmo99
WOW!!ordered the spacers from summit yesterday and got them today!!
and another WOW!! because what a difference in the ride after i installed the spacers.i used the stock spring seats inside the spacers but not sure if i will leave them in or take them out it sits a little high in the back with stock 16s it might be a little much.
here is a pic to show how much lift the spacers give keep in mind that before i installed them the bump stops were sitting on the axle.
pic is kinda dark..flashlight and cell phone lol but you get the idea
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/p...1313025850.jpg
I suspect your springs may be worn out. :(
The official "before" measurements on mine were: 1/4" gap between bump stop & axle on the right and the left side was resting on the axle. I bought a pair of used springs and new insulators and now I have 1/2" both sides. Rides smoother and corners better. :) Even if you keep the spacers, I wonder if you would get the same benefits with fresh springs, too. :_confused
i did think about spring replacement but the bump stops i put on were longer than the stock ones so replacing the spring might not have lifted them off the axle enuff.so i went with the 40 dollar option.
Does someone have a part number or link to Summit for the spacer kit. Ive inferred its a reasonable mod for stock wheel size [I have aftermarket wheels and tires but same fitment]. I had how mine jar.
Thanks much...
xdx
If you would like a used stock set of springs to mess with, I've got a set that are yours for the price of shipping. I'm moving this week and they will be thrown out otherwise. Let me know if you (or anyone else for that matter) wants them.Quote:
Does someone have a part number or link to Summit for the spacer kit. Ive inferred its a reasonable mod for stock wheel size [I have aftermarket wheels and tires but same fitment]. I had how mine jar.
Thanks much...
xdx
Thank you but I have a stock set. Did all my sway linkages with the energy stuff years ago. Thought I would update my stops. Dont throw them away, pay it forward or sell them. Good luck with the move :)
I know this thread is pretty much dead, but for others coming in as of late, I would like to say that I disagree with you blacksambo.Quote:
Originally Posted by blacksambo
Those are bump stops and they DO limit suspension travel. They may affect roll resistance but primarily that's what the sway bar does. I have removed my rear bump stops completely (not recommended unless you have a lift) it does not affect roll/sway on my VX at all, still handles like it always did, but without the harsh jarring of the bump stops.:p
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Originally Posted by Maddawg
I gotta tell ya....our two '99's handle with ease. NO jarring or anything untoward at all. These are after all sport trucks...what do people expect, 1978 Cadillacs?? The parts we are all talking about rides about one quarter of an inch above the axel plate, motionless. Once under way they are in constant contact with the axel. I think, to expect touring car ride in a fairly hi-performance, legacy SUV is expecting too much, perhaps. Let's let the original design do it's intended job. Saw if you must, but do so at your own safety peril.
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Originally Posted by blacksambo
Awe come on Sambo, you know none of us are thinking old Cadillac ride, not even close to that so don't go there. Many of us have or have had, other SUVS/trucks etc so we know how various types of trucks ride.
If your 2 VXs don't make a slamming/jarring/bang sound/jolting vibration of rather significance, when you go over larger highway seams, or on a rough dirt road, or a rough gravel road, with any type of rut or horizontal dip or rise of any kind...then.....um....um....you can't be driving a VX. :_thinking
Going only 22-25mph on my rough, rutted rocky dirt road causes my dash mounted compass, on a hinge, to jump/bobble up and down about 1/2"....and the hinge is secure, not loose. That's the slamming vertical lift I get from the rut or gully.
It also causes a very significant vibration in the steering wheel, significant sensations/vibrations and movement of the steering column.
Could it be that your normal travels just don't take you on roads of this type, and therefore, you don't experience it?
Just going by sheer statistics here, if say, 80% of forum members comment on a rough jarring/slamming/ride over rough horizontal surfaces, and only 2 say "I gotta tell ya....our two '99's handle with ease. NO jarring or anything untoward at all."......ya gotta admit, that's kind of odd, statistically speaking.
All the VX owners that have commented on the jarring ride have come from different model years, different locales, different terrain, different mileage, different ages, different condition of the vehicle...and yet they all describe the very same issue, in the same set of circumstances....that would seem to make it a valid issue IMHO.
Again, my only 2 thoughts I could come up with to explain this 2 vs. many many owners, is to theorize you to don't encounter the type of terrain that the others describe. .....and secondly, you just have a different perception/feeling of this event when it occurs? :_shrug:
Point is....perhaps your driving just doesn't put you in such circumstances...and therefore, you don't perceive it that often, or at all.
I legitimately can't think of any other possibilities for the stark difference of opinion.....
there's my 2 cents :thumbup:
p.s....I am not making any commentary about the function of the bump stops...what they are called or what their official function is....just discussing the slamming/jolt in the ride.
No quarell with your member statistics. My point is actual performance versus expectations. Our trucks are a fifteen plus year old design. Old SUV technology . I think VX's suffer from not looking old, but in fact are practically antiques. Expecting 21st century ride characteristics may not be realistic?
I have to totally agree with Sue. I understand that its a truck and won't feel or drive like my Izusu Axiom for example. But my real truck (stock Chevy) is able to negotiate nasty, bumpy, washboard roads with little or no impact on the coffee cup between my legs. Even though I account for the short wheel base of the VX and try to drive accordingly, its a 5 mile an hour (or less) creeping along drive. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that this vehicle is either mis-engineered or intended for paved road use only.
Darwin much???:):):)Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddawg
Sorry Tom, that one's over my head. (Charles Darwin?)
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Originally Posted by tom4bren
possibly about having hot coffee between youz boyz thighs...and decreasing chance for reproducing yungun's maybe? ya know Darwin's "survival of the fittest"...er, um, I mean dumbest....Quote:
Originally Posted by Maddawg
Don't know if it's over our head or just under Tom's? :goof: :_confused....:slap:
Hahahahah, never would have got that without your help Kat! But I think its cold that hurts the little swimmers, not heat. Either way its not pleasant. :eek:
Nope, it's the heat. That's why they hang, man. "Ya gotta keep 'em separated!"
Also, easiest way for a dude to tell if he's running a fever is when they're like dragging on the floor.
And there's today's bio lesson. ;-)
-V
Y'all think too much.
Riding around in any car with a scalding hot beveridge in a flimsy cup in close proximity to such a sensitive manly organ is not a sign of being a mental giant.
Doing it in a vehicle with the bumpity ride quality of the VX ... that's just Darwin Award material right there.
:):):):)
There's the smilies for ya so you know I'm just rattlin yer cage. After all I'm the one that had to learn the hard way that you should never, ever, ever, never, ever hit a basketball with a baseball bat (KAT - hubby can tell you what the theoretical outcome would be).
But at least I'm NOT the one who tried to use my shoulder as a wheel chock.:)
Yup, it's the heat...that's mostly why I don't have any kids....first hubby had hardly any swimmers........oops, that might be TMI....:mbrasd:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendetta
How the heck did 2 different threads degenerate into the same conversation at the same time???