Ordered new shoes, an intake and ram air.

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09/27/2010, 07:46 PM
Grif

Ordered new shoes, an intake and ram air.

I just ordered a set of these:

http://1dl.us/128564111957387.jpg

And one of these:

http://1dl.us/128564147967878.jpg

And it comes with one of these for no extra charge:

http://1dl.us/128564163178434.jpg

Yes, those are retread tires, but they look awfull mean and from the best in the business. Look for discussions about "treadwright" in this forum.

Yes, I know some of you don't prefer aftermarket intakes, but this is the latest Weapon-R has. I trust them.

As for the RAM intake kit, well its hard to determine, but fitment might be an issue. I wont really be able to tell until the stock airbox is removed, the MAF relocated and intake is installed. But if i cant use the ram air kit, so be it, it came with the intake.

Comments are welcome, flame shield is on.
09/27/2010, 07:58 PM
vt_maverick

Ram-air intake looks like it would make a great snorkel. ;)
09/27/2010, 08:00 PM
Grif

Nice idea mav...thx!
09/27/2010, 08:35 PM
Bob Barker

I want a set of those tires badly, but gotta save money for other things. As soon as I wear out the set on there now I'm gonna order some.
09/27/2010, 08:36 PM
RamAirZ

You could run the hose down through the fender and into the opening in the front bumper if you wanted it set-up that way, I personally wouldn't bother with it or like VT said, snorkel!
09/27/2010, 08:38 PM
vt_maverick

Seems like running the hose lower just invites water issues.
09/27/2010, 08:50 PM
Grif

Yarp, just can't see a way of running it low and still keep it out of the damp.
09/27/2010, 08:57 PM
RamAirZ

The only water issues would be if you drove through a puddle (more like a lake) to submerge it. Rain water would NOT get up that.
09/27/2010, 09:45 PM
Grif

Fording flood waters and creeks would be my intended purpose. The snorkel idea is sounding better all the time.

If I cant comfortably use the ram kit as a performance enhancement then will look into modding for a snorkel.
09/27/2010, 09:49 PM
RamAirZ

Ya, in all honesty, that ram air intake wouldn't gain you that much power to begin with. You could run it in behind the grille but if you plan on having it submerged then the only way to go is a snorkel. I'm HOPING to have a snorkel kit here in the next few weeks to mock up and modify on the VX.
09/28/2010, 12:12 AM
LittleBeast

has this air intake been test fit on a VX before? The only model I know fitting without modification on a VX is the Morgan tech
09/28/2010, 12:18 AM
RamAirZ

You can mod any of them to work really, drill a hole for the IAT sensor if it's not provided, run the "vacuum" line to the elbow, make a bracket to support the filter end and your good to go.
09/28/2010, 08:16 AM
vt_maverick

Quote:

Originally Posted by vt_maverick

Seems like running the hose lower just invites water issues.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grif

Yarp, just can't see a way of running it low and still keep it out of the damp.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamAirZ

The only water issues would be if you drove through a puddle (more like a lake) to submerge it. Rain water would NOT get up that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grif

Fording flood waters and creeks would be my intended purpose. The snorkel idea is sounding better all the time.

If I cant comfortably use the ram kit as a performance enhancement then will look into modding for a snorkel.

I just remembered reading on the G35driver board way back in the day that some manufacturer had created a mod for cold air intakes to keep water from puddles, potholes, etc. from getting up into the engine. That might allow you to do both (run it low for street performance - albeit not much - and high for a snorkel when you want to ford a stream). Hmmm... time to do a little research.
09/28/2010, 09:01 AM
RamAirZ

You could have a vacuum actuated valve in the tube (easy to do) that would be closed under part throttle but open at full throttle.
09/28/2010, 09:16 AM
vt_maverick

Here you go... it's called a bypass valve, and AEM makes it for their intakes. Maybe you could modify it? (Btw, the official term is "hydro-lock.")

http://www.modified.com/tech/0104scc...lve/index.html
09/28/2010, 09:39 AM
RamAirZ

official term for sucking water in? That's a sweet valve. Basically it's like my idea but "reversed haha, didn't even think about the water creating that "seal" to creat a vacuum in the tube and open the valve. And I will add that a small amount of water isn't bad for an engine (small!), as it'd get burned up in the combustion process (evaporate since it isn't combustable), alot of boosted cars run a water injection kit that sprays a small amount of water (or sometimes alky/meth mix or any combination) to cool the heated intake charged from being compressed. It allows you to run more boost on pump gas while lowering the risk of detonation.
09/28/2010, 10:22 AM
vt_maverick

Detonation like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWYyUdruQK4

Make sure you listen all the way through, the voice track is the funniest part of the video.
09/28/2010, 10:33 AM
Grif

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittleBeast

has this air intake been test fit on a VX before? The only model I know fitting without modification on a VX is the Morgan tech

It was sold by a reputable seller on ebay and advertised as compatible with the VX. http://http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290410295208&viewitem= &sspagename=ADME%3AL%3AOU%3AUS%3A1123

Here it is listed on the Weapon-R website: http://www.weapon-r.com/products/195...-weapon-intake
09/28/2010, 10:35 AM
vt_maverick

I'm suspicious of any manufacturer who advertises their product as for the "Honda VehiCROSS". :confused:
09/28/2010, 10:36 AM
vt_maverick

Btw, first link doesn't work (says "http://" twice). When I fix the link I get redirected to Wikipedia. :confused:
09/28/2010, 10:48 AM
RamAirZ

I like that vid, that's funny. I like that Charger in the background!
09/28/2010, 10:54 AM
Grif

Quote:

Originally Posted by vt_maverick

Btw, first link doesn't work (says "http://" twice). When I fix the link I get redirected to Wikipedia. :confused:

Sorry, my bad, link fixed.
09/28/2010, 11:15 AM
Triathlete

I would run the air intake hose (ram air as you refered yo it) into the cabin. No worries of water or dust and you get nice cold air conditioned air into the intake. Of course you would need to upgrade your stereo system to drown out the sucking woosh sounds!:yesy:
09/28/2010, 11:42 AM
Grif

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triathlete

I would run the air intake hose (ram air as you refered yo it) into the cabin. No worries of water or dust and you get nice cold air conditioned air into the intake. Of course you would need to upgrade your stereo system to drown out the sucking woosh sounds!:yesy:

HAHA! You funny! :laughing:
09/28/2010, 01:14 PM
vt_maverick

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triathlete

I would run the air intake hose (ram air as you refered yo it) into the cabin. No worries of water or dust and you get nice cold air conditioned air into the intake. Of course you would need to upgrade your stereo system to drown out the sucking woosh sounds!:yesy:

Would be great for vaccuming the interior too. :p
09/28/2010, 03:11 PM
Triathlete

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grif

HAHA! You funny! :laughing:

Not trying to be funny...take a look at a trophy truck or a lot of hardcore wheelers:yeso:
09/28/2010, 04:16 PM
Grif

Honestly, that makes no sense to me whatsoever. Using the power of the engine to cool the air to increase the power of the engine. I don't think you would see any net gain in power to the wheels in fact, probably a net loss because cooling the air is very inefficient. The laws of thermodynamics still apply. Am I missing somthing here?

Granted the intake tube would stay dry.
09/28/2010, 07:22 PM
Triathlete

Well if you are wheeling with the windows up and the air conditioning on anyways....some of us live, drive and wheel in the desert.:bwgy:
But in all reality it is to keep water, dust, mud, etc. out of your intake. I have seen first hand what WOT and water in the intake will do...just glad it wasn't me.
09/28/2010, 08:15 PM
Grif

If you are driving in hot/dry ambient environment, then perhaps its feasible to have a lesser impact, but still the theory is wrong. You will not gain any performance from feeding air conditioned air into an intake when the very air conditioned air you are feeding it is made by the energy from the engine.

My environ is hot/wet. Much of the energy lost in cooling the air is lost from condensation of water from the A/C coil. In a high humidity environment much of the energy is lost due to external condensation of the A/C coils and its sloughing off of condensed cooled water. This is an inherent inefficiency of all common vehicle cooling systems.

In a dry/hot environment, the water from the coils are dispersed via ambient latent energy in the air much more readily.

Also, I don't need my engine sucking my cool/dry air from the cabin either! Us humans need cool air as much or more than the engine does! At least where I live ... ;)
09/28/2010, 09:42 PM
Triathlete

Apparrently you haven't figured out the meaning of the whole smiley thing yet!
Oh and thanks for the pm! I guess you didn't feel the need to share your true colors with the rest of the forumee's.
09/28/2010, 10:04 PM
RamAirZ

Hi Billy!
10/01/2010, 01:58 AM
RallyDude

Obviously you won't gain power as running the AC will drain more power than you gain. However, if you live in a very hot environment, and most always have the AC on anyway, you would gain back a little of the power that you lose due to the AC. If you want to gain as much power as possible, you would not only not run the AC, but also remove it to gain weight.

But you want AC like the rest of us, so why not gain a little of the power back and feed interior air instead of engine compartment air? I would imagine that it could easily be as high as a 40 degree difference. If ambient air is 90, interior air cooled to 70, and engine compartment air is a hot 110. That's doing the work of an intercooler my freind, so why not? You also may be able to save a few bucks at the gas station as you won't have a problem with engine knock, so you may be able to run a lower octane fuel.

I would run a pre-filter at the intake end to keep out the big stuff. You probably would want to disconnect it during the cold season if you have one. I don't know how much gain you would have, but it is interesting. Too bad dyno-ing is so expensive, or you could actually measure the difference. Butt dyno is going to feel faster, but I think that would be more due to the increased noise. I don't think I could handle the sucking intake noise. It could be accomplished easy enough and you could always reroute it if you didn't care for it once completed.

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