How would you rate the VX in sand?

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08/18/2010, 08:32 PM
surf-life

How would you rate the VX in sand?

Hello everyone,
So what is your opinion on how well the VX does in sand? Also any good pictures of some VX's in some sand?

Thank You,
08/18/2010, 08:42 PM
deermagnet

http://www.wtv-zone.com/markg/imags/01.jpg

http://www.wtv-zone.com/markg/imags/02.jpg

'Nuff said. :(

Mark
08/18/2010, 08:52 PM
surf-life

shooot :(
08/18/2010, 09:13 PM
deermagnet

I was kinda kiddin' there. That's at the Dakar rally in Africa and not a stock VX.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l7..._58069470_.jpg

http://images.4wheeloffroad.com/road...enger_Side.jpg

http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/95415..._side_view.jpg

This is generally considered one of the best VX photos ever taken. From a Four Wheeler Magazine shoot for their review over ten years ago.
http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/95660...mping_view.jpg

http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/95660..._side_view.jpg

http://image.fourwheeler.com/f/95660..._side_view.jpg

Mark
08/18/2010, 09:15 PM
surf-life

OK thats more like it and what I hoped for :)
Thank You Sir
08/18/2010, 09:27 PM
RamAirZ

honestly, it ALL depends on your tires and driving style. I basically have shovels for tires when in sand (my mud terrains) but they aren't meant for sand. Now I can still get through sand but you feel it bog down ALOT with my tires in the real soft stuff. A good all terrain tire would be best or the dune grapplers from Nitto are supposed to be good too
08/19/2010, 05:26 AM
ScottinMA

Here on Cape Cod we are often on the sand. It's not just the tires...it's the pressure of the tires that is most important. When on sand I drop in down to 10 lbs in each tire.
08/19/2010, 06:28 AM
crotchrocket

10 out of 10 !!

Wet Sand

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...2/IMGP5044.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...2/IMGP5039.jpg

Dry sand :D

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...2/DSCF1874.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...2/100_5260.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3...2/100_5232.jpg
08/19/2010, 07:47 AM
MSHardeman

Here's a quick vid of Ldub and Suzie in the sand on Poison Spider Mesa (Moab '09). The sand was SUPER fine and Dub is running Nitto Mud Grapplers which are very chunky and probably acted more like paddle tires.

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...Mesa_09_03.MPG

There where a few others out there whooping it up in the sand and no one seemed to have a problem with it.
08/19/2010, 09:15 AM
surf-life

Ok so it seems that the VX is for sure the ultimate off road machine.....snow, sand, mud, gravel whatever you throw at it it will make it through. Only thing that it cant do it go over water huh?
08/19/2010, 09:29 AM
tom4bren

Actually, we don't like mud too much. Performance is there but the altenator is mounted low & suseptable to water/mud damage.
08/19/2010, 09:35 AM
RamAirZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottinMA

Here on Cape Cod we are often on the sand. It's not just the tires...it's the pressure of the tires that is most important. When on sand I drop in down to 10 lbs in each tire.

X2 forgot to mention that. Have any of you guys driven in the sugar sand of Florida? You walk on it and your feet sink, alot different than that west coast sand lol. The VX is the ultimate offroad machine though and will do just fine in any condition if you prepare for it and drive sensibly. As far as water, why over, just go through it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDNeBbJ5EO4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8ivM_tINlU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEq5gzYNHes
08/19/2010, 09:38 AM
vt_maverick

Definitely very good, although as Scott said, lowering tire pressure can be very important depending on the grain and depth of the sand. I've driven on beaches where you didn't even have to put it in 4LO, let alone lower the tire pressure. But I've also been places where the ruts were deep enough to require 10 lbs. per tire and 4LO to dig out and/or turn.

The other tip on running in the sand is to try to keep up momentum to stay on top of it. Slow down too much or stop and you'll sink.
08/19/2010, 09:38 AM
RamAirZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom4bren

Actually, we don't like mud too much. Performance is there but the altenator is mounted low & suseptable to water/mud damage.

She may not "like" it but she makes it through it just fine, just keep the alt clean lol

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/100_0129.jpg
08/19/2010, 10:19 AM
Ascinder

Quote:

A good all terrain tire would be best or the dune grapplers from Nitto are supposed to be good too

The Dune grapplers are great in the sand and very great on road too. They are quiet and give a nice ride. I was running them with 20's(not a lot of sidewall) and a 4.5" lift which made the ride harsh when going over bumps or washboards. It was however fantastic on the road and on soft sand or dirt with some of the best traction I've felt. The 285-55-20's I have look like steam roller wheels.
08/19/2010, 12:03 PM
Luna X

Quote:

Originally Posted by surf-life

Ok so it seems that the VX is for sure the ultimate off road machine.....snow, sand, mud, gravel whatever you throw at it it will make it through. Only thing that it cant do it go over water huh?

surf,
Did you come out to Tempe and pick up that Ebony? I went to pull up the ad this morning and it's gone...
08/19/2010, 12:05 PM
tom4bren

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamAirZ

She may not "like" it but she makes it through it just fine, just keep the alt clean lol

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/s...s/100_0129.jpg

You said what I said ... just better ... with fewer words ... I H8 U:)
08/19/2010, 12:41 PM
RamAirZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom4bren

You said what I said ... just better ... with fewer words ... I H8 U:)

:laughing:
08/19/2010, 02:10 PM
Triathlete

Since pictures are worth a thousand words....here ya go!

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...oabday4077.jpg

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...oabday4078.jpg

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...oabday4079.jpg

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...oabday4080.jpg

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...oabday4081.jpg

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...oabday4082.jpg

And they do well on petrified sand also...:bwgy:

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...Revenge002.jpg
08/19/2010, 03:57 PM
surf-life

Thank You all for the pictures
08/19/2010, 04:17 PM
Marlin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triathlete

Since pictures are worth a thousand words....here ya go!

http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/o...oabday4077.jpg

I was hauling *** when I hit that hill!!!!!
08/20/2010, 12:51 AM
Riff Raff

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottinMA

Here on Cape Cod we are often on the sand. It's not just the tires...it's the pressure of the tires that is most important. When on sand I drop in down to 10 lbs in each tire.

The only downside to lowering tire pressure is the possibility of getting sand granules/dirt caught inbetween the tire bead & rim. This happens very easily when high "torque" (skinny pedal) input is applied as the tire bead will be slightly pulled away from the rim edge allowing sand/dirt to get trapped within the tire bead. This will cause a slow tedeous air leak when the tires are re-inflated as the tire bead can't properly seat against the rim due to the stuck sand granules/dirt. If this happens, the tires must be unmounted and both rim & tire thoroughly cleaned and then re-mounted-- a real P.I.T.A.!!!
08/20/2010, 03:51 AM
Marlin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riff Raff

The only downside to lowering tire pressure is the possibility of getting sand granules/dirt caught inbetween the tire bead & rim. This happens very easily when high "torque" (skinny pedal) input is applied as the tire bead will be slightly pulled away from the rim edge allowing sand/dirt to get trapped within the tire bead. This will cause a slow tedeous air leak when the tires are re-inflated as the tire bead can't properly seat against the rim due to the stuck sand granules/dirt. If this happens, the tires must be unmounted and both rim & tire thoroughly cleaned and then re-mounted-- a real P.I.T.A.!!!

x2, my trip to Moab was on brand new wheels and tires. When I got back, had slow air leaks in 3 of 4 tires? WTF?!!!! Turns out sand had gotten in there, was enough damage to score the seating surface of the tire, and they had leaks forever after. Not bad, had to put air in every month. Those tires went with the truck we traded in:)
08/20/2010, 07:12 AM
WormGod

And for your urban sand crawlers, we like it more relaxing....

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...1oc05_info.jpg
08/20/2010, 08:39 AM
RamAirZ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlin

x2, my trip to Moab was on brand new wheels and tires. When I got back, had slow air leaks in 3 of 4 tires? WTF?!!!! Turns out sand had gotten in there, was enough damage to score the seating surface of the tire, and they had leaks forever after. Not bad, had to put air in every month. Those tires went with the truck we traded in:)

X3, after my trip to Mobile Swamp and running about 10psi all day, I had leaks in my front 2 tires, one of them was from a tree branch getting wedged in between the rim/tire and allowing crap in there and the other I figured was from the sand/dirt/mud.
08/20/2010, 01:28 PM
Triathlete

Best cure...beadlocks!:bwgy:
08/20/2010, 01:36 PM
RamAirZ

Wanna buy me some :)
08/20/2010, 01:41 PM
Triathlete

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamAirZ

Wanna buy me some :)

Sure!

Right after I win that BIG lottery!:bwgy:
08/20/2010, 01:52 PM
RamAirZ

awesome! I'll be waiting patiently
08/20/2010, 02:05 PM
Triathlete

Quote:

Originally Posted by RamAirZ

awesome! I'll be waiting very, very, very patiently forever

Fixed it for you!:bwgy:
08/20/2010, 02:07 PM
Marlin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triathlete

Sure!
Right after I win that BIG lottery!:bwgy:

Good, you can order me some too:) We can do some creative VX only design!!!

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