Do you know where your wheeling rig is at? Mine is under a snowdrift...
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Do you know where your wheeling rig is at? Mine is under a snowdrift...
Mine's in the graveyard awaiting resurrection:mad:
Yeah, but what a resserection it will be!:bwgy:
I may be going to Ovexpo in Lieu of Moab
(not that it's at the same time, but I have to choose one or the other)
My new obsession is Overland Travel, mostly reading people's experiences, build logs etc. But Overland Travel, and Motorcycle Dependent travel is neato... yep.
Billy Will you be going? I think it's only a few hours from you.
Who is going to volunteer to be Trail Boss on the VX RUN?!?:confused:
To Moab..yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by taylorRichie
You could hit Moab on the way to or from!?!?!?!
my vote is bigswede or billy... they seem to be the most experienced in moab and being trail-bosses...Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Harness
oh, and my wheeling rig is sitting in the driveway... waiting to be driven or more mod's added...
Apparently you have not read on here of my "mis"adventures.Quote:
Originally Posted by pbkid
Billy I was referring to OvExpo. It's in Amado, Santa Cruz County, Arizona.
http://ovexpo.com/Home.html
I'm very excited...
And it's April 16-18th... The problem is time off work... So I'll only be able to hit one or the other.
Thats my back yard...I ride by bike in that area often...not much of a wheeling area in my book. I could recommend some much better trails. In my opinion...the area has nothing on Moab. If you search the 4xwire you will find a great write up a few of the zu guys did enroute to Moab that was a multi day linking of some trails in the Utah area that ended in Moab. t was from a few years ago.
If you do come down make sure and let me know so maybe we can get together. I will round up the locals!
Ovexpo is not about wheeling :D
It's about vehicle dependent travel and training. There will be a lot of world travelers, in several hundred thousand dollar vehicles :D Some $1m Unicat Vehicles even. I'm definitely going, but I haven't decided if I'm going by Motorcycle, or if I'm going by VX. Either way I'm extremely excited.
I'll get in touch with you as it approaches.
http://www.unicatamericas.com/secondhand.html
an example of some Pricey vehicles.
Dave & I went to their initial/first annual one last year, here in Prescott. Awesome! Saw some real beasts of over-land vehicles, huge, mongo things! One (Global Xpedition Vehicle) had a hydraulic spare tire lifter mechanism...to say the tire was large is an understatement. Attended a few neat seminars, and met Lance Blair of the Disabled Explorers who had lots of good info for me...plus he had a really cool blue FJ Cruiser too.Quote:
Originally Posted by taylorRichie
Made us seriously regret selling our D90, but then we saw several really cool FJs...so we felt a little better. You'll love the show....and I think this year it has some hands on driving stuff too.
:thumbup:
Sorry to pull this thread way off topic :D
I am quite excited... and There is a full on driving school going on. Which I think would be great. If I ever get a D90 I'll never sell it ;) and for FJs...
http://www.exp-one.com/fj_cruiser.html
Those are my favorite products... They're down the street from me, and I'm going in next weekend to see if they can fab up one of their Trail bumpers for me (shhh) however, they're not really confident they can do it with out mass customization and $$$ so, I'm not getting my hopes up.
Actually, yes it is...just a differant type:bwgy: And what do you do when you are 300 miles from nowhere and you come upon a large ledge in your path? Turn around? Or forge ahead?:yesy:Quote:
Originally Posted by taylorRichie
Bring the VX!!!!!!!!!!
You would have a non-VX lead the run???Quote:
Originally Posted by pbkid
Anyway, there is no way I could fill the airwaves with fun facts like Todd...I'm usually too worried about staying on the correct trail.
Oh no, you mean to tell me there aren't neat little park signs saying things like:Quote:
Originally Posted by BigSwede
"Fins and Things" fine seafood dining ahead 500yds.
"Dome Plateau" Please don't feed the bald headed old men
"Colorado River" 500yds (straight down)
"Kane Creek" feel free to use crutches
"Hell's Revenge" tacos and other mexican food next exit
"Poison Spyder" Ahead 50yds...keep your windows rolled up
"Rest Area" next exit (next Rest Area 5 miles)
"Slower Traffic and Jeeps right lane only"
"Amber Alert" Missing Proton VX w/too much off-set
warning driver has dementia and will insist he is not lost....
you may not be too good at filling the radio waves with information. but you definately know your way around.... you havent steered me wrong every time i've followed you yet. :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by BigSwede
dont worry... with 20 VX'ers im sure we can fill the radio waves with useless info to keep everyone entertained.
Hell, we haven't even picked a trail yet!:bwgy:
Oh H3LL yeah...I don't think anyone cares who/what's in the lead, as long as we don't get lost too often...:smilewinkQuote:
Originally Posted by BigSwede
May I suggest a "bunny hill" type trail that mostly stock first timers can traverse easily...:yesgray:Quote:
Originally Posted by Triathlete
Since the rig count has (vx / all other Isuzus) flip-flopped in the last few years maybe we need to change it to the Non-VX run now!:bwgy:Quote:
Originally Posted by BigSwede
helldorado it is then!:bwgy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ldub
OK, well we're not doing Fins 'n Things then... although I don't think I've ever gotten lost more than once there...but always at least once!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ldub
Well let's talk about this, whether I lead or not. [gets out new, 2nd edition, spiral bound, Guide to Moab, UT Backroads & 4-wheel Drive Trails :bwgy: ]
I was thinking of going to Elephant Hill again, love that trail...but you guys did it a few years ago. If you guys could keep moving along we could go do the Joint Trail hike along the way, very cool. But I suspect with a group that large it would be problematic to do all that without getting back very late.
I've never done Top of the World, have you guys?
Thompson Canyon/Polar Mesa looks interesting, climbs to 8000 feet in the La Sal mountains, and starts on Onion Creek Road which offers a bunch of creek crossings early on.
Chicken Corners or Bull Canyon might be good choices.
Hey Joe Canyon might be good, except for likely brush scratches...
Thoughts?
I've always wanted to do Top of the World!!:yesb:
just my 2 cents.....but...
a creek crossing trail probably isnt the best thing to do for the newbie's as that generally creates 'pin-striping' that some may not want on their ride.. (i dont give a crap, i just got done ripping my mirror off)
but thats just what i think...how bout hell's revenge?? easy trail, has some challenges... stock VX should have no problems at all...always a good one for newbs (i know we have all done it a bazillion times, but for the new guys its a legendary trail)
or poison spider?? their are bypasses around anything crazy on that trail...
Did Top of the World a couple of Moab's ago, and it is fairly easy. I don't remember there being anything that a stock VX couldn't handle. I remember it being relatively short too (compaired to some all day VX runs of years past).
Hell's Revenge isn't too bad, but the first obsticle (mini Lion's Back) freaked the crud out of me so I would think a first timer would really wig out. I also seem to remember some long climbs that the VX can handle, but could be a little unsettling to newbies.
Just my two cents, but I'm up for anything.....almost.
I was a noob and stock...I can't even recall that obstacle....maybe was just so intoxicated with the cool scenery and everything was new to me. Rubble trouble at the end of Hell's Revenge was the only part I recall as being that challenging for stock height. Didn't someone say they changed/re-routed the end of that trail and rubble trouble is no more?Quote:
Originally Posted by MSHardeman
I think we should rename it, warm up day, and not vx only run since there are others in our fam that dont have vx.....and we could pick something very pretty to look at, I know the La Sal mountains are gorgeous and last year was my first time going up there, boy had I been missing out! So if we do warm up day, and pick something that we can all warm up on....I know I am nervous as I havent taken my own VX out there since 2005!! And I had a full skid plate which I no longer have......so easy with no clearance probs is my choice!
It's been a couple of years, so I'm thinking about heading out to Moab again this year. What's the latest headcount?!?
its on the calender with the other meets that go on....Quote:
Originally Posted by PHO2GR4
Looks like it's at 22+ but I think some have changed plans but not changed sign up. Maybe folks could take a look at the sign up and update as needed as we're so much closer now??
The creek crossings on Onion Creek Road are on an actual dirt road, no brush to cause striping. Maybe some angst for the buff 'n shine sorts though...Quote:
Originally Posted by pbkid
I think the name "VX Run" is fine as the VXers "host" the run...everyone is welcome. Kind of like you don't have to have a Jeep to go to the Easter Jeep Safari.
I have wanted to do Eliphant Hill and have not done it yet.
As for trail selection it sould be stock friendly but at the same time offer some challenge so the driver can get a feel of what the vehicle is capable of. That was the balance that Todd always shot for. That way newbs feel more comfortable on future trails.
X2...We dropped the"ONLY" several years ago!Quote:
Originally Posted by Triathlete
I know technically we're not supposed to formally pick trails here, but if you email me a few options, I'll plug the waypoints into my GPS from the "BOOK" and help out.
I didn't get quite lost on fins n things a few years back...
not for too long anyways...
:winkgray:
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigSwede
Elephant Hill is a very cool trail, with astonishing scenery, and moderate difficulty. It does have the drawback of distance from Moab (around 75 miles), the National Park fee ($10), no dogs allowed, and the fact that the most difficult part of the trail is immediately at the start, which could give some newbs heartburn. However, I have encountered folks in rented Trailblazers on the trail, so everybody should be able to do it. A modest lift would be a good thing, but stockers should be OK with a little spotting in places.Quote:
Originally Posted by Triathlete
Truthfully though, Elephant Hill might be best left to another day with a smaller group. If we are talking 20+, I don't see any way to have the time to do any of the short hikes like the Joint Trail or the Confluence, which are very cool. I would be happy to lead a smaller group there.
Heh, I don't think I have heard of anybody not getting lost, at least a little, leading FnT. Fortunately when I got lost I was able to discover and correct my error pretty quickly. But somebody GPS savvy along wouldn't hurt...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenny
BTW do you have the 2nd edition? I believe all the waypoints have been updated and improved.
I've got the 2nd Edition if somebody needs the waypoints.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigSwede
I looked online for way-points in moab ,but the ones I found seem to a bit old, like from 01. So I guess what I have isn't uptodate . If'n you have way-points to share, I'd be interested .
yup, that nice spiral bound copy.
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Originally Posted by BigSwede