hey guys, check this out...
just some interesting info to know..
http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthrea...51#post1376151
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hey guys, check this out...
just some interesting info to know..
http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthrea...51#post1376151
I've heard of this kind of stuff before. sick people!
wow...
http://www.omnipresence.mahost.org/inttxt.htm
The how to guide.
Yeah, I saw some crap like this a year or so ago. Pretty freakin rediculous...
Bart
I can see it now...Quote:
Originally Posted by nfpgasmask
Bart sees that the trail is booby trapped, gets out of his truck & says...
"Caltrops...COOL" & picks them all up & keeps them for future reference...:razzgray:
The real question, is what would I do if I came upon some eco terrorists in the act of setting booby traps...a lot can happen in the middle of the desert.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ldub
:) Bart
Yep...:naughty:. One of my favorite quotes form goodfellas (I think)...Quote:
Originally Posted by nfpgasmask
There's a lotta holes in the desert...
And in those holes, a lot of problems.
Not sure how close I remembered that...:rolleyesg
We experienced that in Shenandoah. Someone put a tadpole pond right in front of Eric.
Yeah, but I can see why someone would do it. I've got some pristine property up in the mountains. In the past, people would steal the woodpile from time to time, and the cabin up the road was totally looted. But in general, it wasn't too bad. There were some pretty hefty rocks in the road, and the scrambling needed to get there made it remote to most people. (Prime reason I bought my VX, actually...)Quote:
Originally Posted by nfpgasmask
Lately, the fences and gates are getting locked, up and down the valley -- to keep the ATV riders out. Although the hikers, bikers, and jeepers are pretty good people in general, the ATV riders seem to have no qualms with leaving the road and tearing up the land.
I've got a security cam shot of some kids driving right up to the NO TREASPASSING sign, a hundred yards from the road.
I've considered traps, but discarded them as a totally stupid idea. I would really love to inconvenience someone with no respect for the outdoors, but I don't think it would do to injure anyone -- especially someone like a hiker.
So, I just sit around and rant. "Ge'off my prop-er-tie!!" :)
Almost, its Casino (pretty much the same thing though, right) and its "A lot of holes in the desert, and a lot of problems are buried in those holes."Quote:
Originally Posted by Ldub
:) Casino is a cold-blooded, BRUTAL film. Good stuff.
Bart
Well, booby trapping your own property to catch trespassers is one thing (actually sounds like fun). The problem here, is that it's eco-terrorists who are laying traps to disable 4x4 vehicles on National Forest and BLM trails. I personally think there should be guidelines, and FIRM, EXPENSIVE punishments for people who get caught cutting trails and dumping trash, but booby trapping trails is like blowing up abortion clinics.Quote:
Originally Posted by mdwyer
Bart
I just shed a tear :_crying:Quote:
Originally Posted by ZEUS
i completly agree... people who set traps on public lands should charges of premeditated murder... especially if they set wire up neck high... i mean wtf who in their right mind would do something like that... i also found this pamphlet about how to set boobytraps, it sounds like it was made for world war 1 and 2. i read it and its really revealing. its good to read it and know what your up agianst.
http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/efdm/efdm.html
There would be no choice, but to go all "Anton Chigurh" on their sorry az...:naughty:Quote:
Originally Posted by nfpgasmask
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da..._by_aMorle.jpg
Lol!! :thumbup:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ldub
just read an article in a local paper about this.. 15 year old riding his dirtbike on a trail took a steel cable to the throat, as you would expect, he didnt make it. the people who put the cable up claimed they did it to keep people in pickups from driving down the trail to dump trash.. they had been ordered to take it down before when another kid hit it last summer, hit him in the upper chest so he made it
family of the deceased sued and won a settlement for 750k.. no criminal charges at all
The worst part about this is the ones who set these things up are never around when some one falls prey to a "trap". hard to get justice sometimes. eye for an' eye. This is just not right.
Yeah, and since when does a steel cable block any determined 4x4 from getting around it? Sounds like a clear case of booby trapping or at least criminal negligence! :mad:
Bart
The biggest error was that the steel cable stretched across the road should have had bright orange/yellow/red warning flags/streamers and/or signage to indicate the barrier was in place.
It is extremely hard to see a skinny gray cable against perhaps a grey colored gravel road and when possibly viewed through the rider's dirty goggles or helmet visor-lens.
Further; any good off-road dirt biker knows to travel slow down unfamliar trails, and to first do an area recon before blindly going hell-bent down unfamiliar trails at high speed. Had an adequate pre-recon of the trail been done at a very slow pace by the dirt-biker, then perhaps the dirt-biker would have been aware of the imposing hazard beforehand.
Any type of road barrier (cable, chain, rope, etc) needs to have some sort of bright colored warning attachment and must have 3M reflective tape streamers for night travel in an effort to prevent such mishaps. I don't think it was the land owner's true intent to harm another person, but I do believe that the land owner was negligent in not having adequate warning devices in place to prevent such a tradegy from happening.