scared meself!!!

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Originally Posted by Scott Larson

Just in case, I thought I best immortalize this...it's priceless!!

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The irony is that your childish delight in a simple typo once again opens the door for me to say this...

Grow up Scott.

bet a response to me is up next....

/\ /\ /\ /\ Kat.....lol

Well, I've said all I wanted and needed to say in this thread. I guess he'll eventually stop when everybody else stops. Let him have the last word....my gosh, he put a lot of effort and passion into this thread, into trying to prove something (I lost his intent many pages ago)...he deserves it.

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Originally Posted by VX KAT

I speak of my own free will, that's absolutely correct.

I just call 'em as I see 'em, and WHENEVER I feel 'em.

A prior positive interaction with someone here, does not, necessarily have a connection or control my comments in this thread.

If I happen to agree I may post that, if I don't agree I may post that as well.

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Same here Kat.

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Originally Posted by VX KAT

They're not all cliques TREK, it's just that sometimes Group A agrees on the same "things", sometimes a few from Group B may agree with Group A, Some from Group C may agree with something said in Group A and B....etc, etc..... There's almost an infinite number of configurations of "groups".

The fact that there appears to be a pretty good number of folks that don't share your opinions in this thread, is just another random collection of members that I'll call a "group", that happen to share the same opinion on this particular topic or comments....that does not make them a clique.

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The problem with your logic is that there is also a random collection of members that DO happen to share my opinion. Just because they choose not to voice that opinion publicly (for good reason) doesn't automatically mean you can assume they don't exist.

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Originally Posted by VX KAT

And IMHO, Jo and VXObsession could not have summarized it any better!

I happen to be one of those folks Jo has had a few long discussions - face to face - into the wee hours of the morning discussing some very deep differences of opinions on a few topics. ;) Yet because we're both mature adults and respect each other, we very amicably "agreed to disagree" AND MOVED ON! We continue to have a very good friendship both on the forum and by phone and email. In fact, we even still get a few laughs in ABOUT OUR DISAGREEMENTS!
That's what many people here are trying to get across to you TREK. Just politely agree to disagree and MOVE ON!

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Once again, you're simply (and conveniently) directing your suggestion to the wrong person.

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Originally Posted by VX KAT

I sold you some stuff because any differences of opinion we may have had or have didn't matter, we rose above it and acted like mature adults.

There's no mob or mafia or clique here thats collaborating and joining forces to "get you" in some manner. That's paranoia.

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Maybe, maybe not. Some of you sure do seem to be "joining forces" in this thread after all.

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Originally Posted by VX KAT

As many have mentioned, most of us come here and participate for the sole love of the VX. Any further similarities or commonalities of beliefs are pure coincidence whenever a large group of people get together.

When most of us "agree to disagree" on something here and move on, and continue on with our enjoyment of this site, it makes someone who nitpicks, and continues on and on disagreeing about something or some points, it makes that person appear to ENJOY the disharmony and friction it causes.

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Once again, it could be said that you're simply (and conveniently) directing your suggestion to the wrong person/people.

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Originally Posted by VX KAT

Ever heard the phrase: I learned long ago, never wrestle with a pig. You just get all dirty, and the pig ENJOYS it.

IMHO, you're kinda lookin' like that.

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Well when you put it like THAT, how in the world could anyone EVER say you've made any comments in threads such as this that could be viewed as sowing any of the types of threads of discontent as you've just blamed me nonstop of doing with your post. :rolleyes:

Trekkie my boy, you fracture me...really!! "I know you are but what am I", hilarity beyond words dude...:laugho: I take it all back, stay off your meds cuz you're much more entertaining when yer straight!:rotate:

As someone who isn't part of any clique on this sight I feel like I should respond and say stop being a @#*!...but why?

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Originally Posted by Y33TREKker

The irony is that your childish delight in a simple typo once again opens the door for me to say this...

Grow up Scott.

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Simple typo or Freudian slip? Hmmmmm...:_confused I'm just glad I thought to quote it so it didn't magically disappear!:rollo:

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Originally Posted by tom4bren

UMMM, Nope. I'd already seen a 50% decrease in oil consumption when I added the catch can. There was still too much consumption for my taste so then I moved on to ensure maximum ventillation by adding the crossover tube or vent on the other side. Another significant decrease but still not enough.

Next I'll try Seafoam or Rotella before the oil change. It has become my personnal vendetta to find the cure (short of an engine rebuild).

& thanks for the kind words. I'm probably now back to the acceptable limit for Isuzu (1 qt every 1000 miles). I was burning a quart every 300 miles.

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So how are you gauging your test results? Do you commute to work & burn through a tank every week? I wonder if one tank per experiment gives an accurate comparison... ? Do you think outside temp has anything to do with it? Like summer versus winter? I never did any tests regarding oil consumption or burn or whatever is going on.

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Originally Posted by Y33TREKker

... adding a vent filter to your oil cap is the exact same as the crossover tube idea you started this thread about.

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Please 'splain to me how it's not.

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Originally Posted by ZEUS

So how are you gauging your test results? Do you commute to work & burn through a tank every week? I wonder if one tank per experiment gives an accurate comparison... ? Do you think outside temp has anything to do with it? Like summer versus winter? I never did any tests regarding oil consumption or burn or whatever is going on.

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I burn a tank every 3 days. Sorry but I don't have an accurate measuring system. I was putting a quart in once a week, now I'm putting a quart in every other week or a little longer.

Temps may very well have an impact on oil consumption. Mebbe this summer I'll take it back to OEM & record precise consumption rates as I put it back on one step at a time (assuming that I don't use some Rotella or SeaFoam before my next oil change.

Tom, yer blindin' me with science...http://youtu.be/nMWGXt979yg

Every THREE days!!!??? Holy crap that's a lot of driving! That would be a good test, setting it back to OEM some time just to verify.

Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!

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Originally Posted by ZEUS

Every THREE days!!!??? Holy crap that's a lot of driving!

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Yep, 45 miles to work ... uphill both ways. It takes anywhere from 1 to 3 hours each way.

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Originally Posted by tom4bren

Yep, 45 miles to work ... uphill both ways. It takes anywhere from 1 to 3 hours each way.

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Depending on how many wrecks you get in along the way, right? :bwgy:

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Originally Posted by ZEUS

Depending on how many wrecks you get in along the way, right? :bwgy:

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ZAKRY

You almost jinxed me though. This morning some bonehead decided that he really needed to occupy the same space in my lane that I was in. I wussed out though & let them have it (just wasn't in the mood to argue).

Oops. No whammies, no whammies!
Luckily, you already know where to go when you are in the mood to argue!

I have no response to that.:)

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Originally Posted by VXobsession

/\ /\ /\ /\ Kat.....lol

Well, I've said all I wanted and needed to say in this thread. I guess he'll eventually stop when everybody else stops. Let him have the last word....my gosh, he put a lot of effort and passion into this thread, into trying to prove something (I lost his intent many pages ago)...he deserves it.

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And what have you proven, that you think you're contributing to the conversation with your occasional 2 cents even though you admit you don't even know the intent of the conversation?

Since we're discussing things deserved though, let's consider the individual offers of "help" I've received (included your multiple offers in this thread VXObsession) that were presented in the form of shared wisdom: such as pointing out that I'd be saving a lot of time, trouble, and mental energy for myself by simply ending my membership on this website and never coming back, and/or, just dropping any such discussions when it becomes obvious that no progress is being made.

Such examples of wisdom have no doubt proven true, but, only in retrospect.

While those examples of wisdom were probably intended to be viewed as being selfless in nature, and would have as suggested no doubt saved the time, trouble, and mental energy involved being more often than not ultimately wasted, it's only possible to view them that way with the benefit of hindsight. (Which incidentally, only made your comments make even less sense since it's been comments like yours that have ended up proving that my time has been wasted. Oh the irony).

When that wisdom has been based on the apparent idea that simply accepting the attitude I've been referring to would be best for everyone though, is that proposed wisdom actually wisdom, or is it simply an illustration of some having given up trying to make a positive difference just trying to perpetuate such a fatalistic view as the norm? (And in the process, conveniently making themselves appear as the individuals with the "normal" viewpoint).

After all, when such wisdom has been offered, it's been fairly obvious it would be better served if no one took the time to consider the facts that me following such wisdom and limiting my presence here in such ways WOULD ALSO JUST HAPPEN to result in the by-product of some members here not having to be reminded of the past discussions they've participated in where they've exhibited the attitude in question...having to wonder every time they see my user ID on a post on this message board whether they're going to be reminded of those past discussions once again...and saving THOSE members a lot of time, trouble, and mental energy trying to defend their past and current exhibitions of said attitude.

While that would obviously benefit SOME here, it sure doesn't add up to creating an environment that is equitable or progressive for all does it? (Rhetorical question)

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate some of you offering to "help" me save my time and effort for other more productive endeavors, but apparently, what you've apparently been imagining as taking a lot of time, effort and passion for me to respond to your comments in these threads actually only takes me a few minutes each time because this is second nature stuff for me (you're the ones who still don't get it and apparently keep having to actually think about it). Similarly to what you said before though, if you're one who continues to illustrate the attitude I've been discussing regardless of who you are or what you do for a living, I can only imagine how much misguided time, effort, and passion it must take a person to come up with posts that try to make exhibiting or defending the attitude we've been discussing sound logical and/or intended to promote the greater good for all site members. It must be exhausting... ;)

And since you also brought up last words, surely you'll understand that I didn't make these comments because I needed to say them and have the last word, but instead said them because they simply needed to be said...and because you deserved it.

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Originally Posted by Scott Larson

Trekkie my boy, you fracture me...really!! "I know you are but what am I", hilarity beyond words dude...:laugho: I take it all back, stay off your meds cuz you're much more entertaining when yer straight!:rotate:

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Originally Posted by Scott Larson

Simple typo or Freudian slip? Hmmmmm...:_confused I'm just glad I thought to quote it so it didn't magically disappear!:rollo:

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You obviously still don't realize it, but you're one of the last people here who should be bringing up Freudian issues. ;)

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Originally Posted by tom4bren

Please 'splain to me how it's not.

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I already have...MULTIPLE times.

Sorry ... but nope. You said that it's not the same but didn't 'splain how the end effect would be any different.

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Originally Posted by Y33TREKker

BLAH.BLAH.BLAH.SameOldSameOld.BLAH.BLAH.BLAH.Ridic ulouslyTooLongPostThatNoOneButTrekWillActuallyRead .Blah.Blah.blah.

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*Fixed it*

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*Fixed it*

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Ha ha ha! 2 cents :bwgy:

:bla:... And that's why I hate Chihuahuas...

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Sorry ... but nope. You said that it's not the same but didn't 'splain how the end effect would be any different.

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You just keep telling yourself you're right about that Tom...that's obviously what you do best.

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*Fixed it*

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Originally Posted by Frankenstein

Ha ha ha! 2 cents :bwgy:

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And some of you guys and girls claim I'M the person here who is close-minded. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Scott Larson

:bla:... And that's why I hate Chihuahuas...

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Still can't think of any original comebacks by yourself I see.

And I've even been giving you a lot of extra time lately... ;)

Yap,yap, yap, yap, yap, yap, nip, nip, nip, nip, nip...ad nauseam! There Trekkie, hows that for original my little Pom-Chi? :p ;)

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And some of you guys and girls claim I'M the person here who is close-minded. :rolleyes:

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Closed-minded is the more logical spelling of the phrasal adjective meaning intolerant of others or unreceptive to new ideas. Closed-minded is logical because we wouldn't say of an intolerant person that his mind is close, which would mean literally that his mind is near. Instead, we would say his mind is closed. Some dictionaries do list not open as one of the many adjectival definitions of close, but in actual 21st-century usage close usually gives way to closed for this sense. Still, logic rarely holds sway over English usage or the rantings of you Trekkie.:p

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Originally Posted by Y33TREKker

The problem with your logic is that there is also a random collection of members that DO happen to share my opinion. Just because they choose not to voice that opinion publicly (for good reason) doesn't automatically mean you can assume they don't exist.

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Most of my imaginary friends had disappeared by the time I was 3 or 4...I still have a couple, but DUDE...rlly?

:laughing:

"Random collection of members" sounds like a structure with no leg to stand on... or a maybe a gay porno... or maybe a gay porno with no leg to stand on! "Thaaat's naaasty..."

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Originally Posted by ZEUS

"Random collection of members" sounds like a structure with no leg to stand on... or a maybe a gay porno... or maybe a gay porno with no leg to stand on! "Thaaat's naaasty..."

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Mebbe took Willie to tha house of mirrors?...:rotate:

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Originally Posted by Y33TREKker

You just keep telling yourself you're right about that Tom...that's obviously what you do best.

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WTF???

Why so SNARKY?

I was honestly asking your opinion as to why you feel the current solution yields different results than my original 'proposed' approach.

If you'd rather just pick at the scab from earlier discussions though, I'll let it go.

what was this thread originally about? i forgets

710 unicorns, if I remember correctly.

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Originally Posted by tom4bren

WTF???

Why so SNARKY?

I was honestly asking your opinion as to why you feel the current solution yields different results than my original 'proposed' approach.

If you'd rather just pick at the scab from earlier discussions though, I'll let it go.

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Sooooooooo....it hasn't become abundantly clear to you?

It's everyone else....most definitely NOT tha chi-pom.

SHEESH...try N keep up, will ya?...:laughing:

BTW, what'd ya use for baffling in your can?

That's a rather personal question there Dub...what's in his can is his business!:rotate:

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Originally Posted by Ldub

what'd ya use for baffling in your can?

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None. It appears that with long (& uphill) run on my hoses, all of the oil condenses inside the hose & runs back into the valve cover. So far I haven't collected any oil in the can.

If I were collecting any though, I'd probably just use steel wool. I'd probably also add a drop tube on the intake to about 1/2 way into the baffling.

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Originally Posted by Ldub

Sooooooooo....it hasn't become abundantly clear to you?

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Nah, I'm a leeeetle dense. Prolly comes from being wrong so often despite the fact that I tell everyone that I'm never wrong.