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12g? I'll take my 1300 Defender side-folder that's tucked away in my dresser drawer with a full tactical loadout and Surefire for close-quarters duty, but heck, you only need one bang to end a home invasion situation. The first two rounds are 4-shot, counting down to slugs after that. If you make it out under your own power, your car won't!
I have to say to the original question. You should have BOTH!! The only malfunctions I've had with my AR were magazine related (used military). No problems what so ever with Pmags. I have a Saiga 7.62 that I converted to an AK, because I wanted an actual Russian gun. Also have an AK74, & a Saiga12. In my opinion they all have their place & purpose. I like shooting the AK's (especially with the slide fire stock on it:bwgy:) but I'd have to say I prefer the AR.
Should we start a 9mm vs .45 debate next???
Reliability, accuracy, and investment reasons, I choose HK.
John
Hahaha HK "You suck, and we hate you" Overpriced crap. I won't do business with a company that reluctantly sells to me. They may be made nicely but they are no more reliable, or accurate, and they have some of the poorest ergonomics in the game. Cost benefit puts HK on the bottom. Try to get replacement parts sometime, they will treat you like garbage and then maybe not send it to you. They're no more accurate than many others. If you need expensive, foreign, and chic go Sig at least they like their customers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hotsauce
HK military stuff isn't very good anymore either, but for an investment piece if you can get a good deal it's worth it. The fanboys are willing to trade their first born for that junk, and probably always will be.
PS I wanted to like HK, they killed it for themselves.
Source: I'm a professional gunsmith.
How about 10mm!
BINGO!!!! I use to love HK products, they are sexy as hell and were tactical leaders at one time, but over the decades as they fail you are absolutely correct. Its a high cost no support vendor that kills it for me. I've even played with the newer G36 UMP's and they don't impress me. Still have my P7M8 though!!
i think we can all agree that the m60 from rambo first blood part 1 is the way to go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LCQGEXfWDQ
agree I loved my m60 not only did I shed a tear when they took it away and replaced it with a 249. I almost got an article 15 trying to stop them from taking it from the armory. Dam I loved my pig
Ala5ka:
I respect your opinion, I'm sure it is based on your experience.
I also hold a class 1 and 10 FFL.
Let's agree to disagree.
John
THREAD NECRO!!!
My votes are MP7, Tar-21, and and Remington R-51...each for various purposes, of course. :)