Got it, thanks.
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Got it, thanks.
OK lads here it is..............and the results have blown us all away
Car ran well right out of the box - we've lost the graph of this actual engine but from memory it was 134 hp, not too bad for a 430000 km 6VE1!
130 hp graph is a stock 3.2 SOHC
166 hp is 2 psi
188hp is 3 psi There is a caveat though - the 188 hp was at 100% injector duty so that is the absolute limit of the stock hardware, real world tune with stock hardware is realistically about 177hp
The SC is hardly working at all and there is a 25%+ power gain, and more importantly the low rev power is well over stock!
More work to do but very very exciting
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...humbs/dyno.jpg
Nice, get some bigger injectors in there and tuned with a piggyback system (say a megasquirt or something similar) to get DC around 80-85% at full boost, say 8psi, and it'd be making some good power! Is this on a chassis dyno I take it? And is it running through a 4wd auto trans?
It is a chassis with a drivers seat on a chassis dyno :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RamAirZ
We are still working on cracking the ECU, got to where we can see the tables, but can't yet tell what we are looking at! Not keen on piggy backs - (we are Haltech agents) but not ruling it out.
Certainly the potential is there for quite a bit more power above what the factory hardware can deliver
You can also increase fuel pressure for additional fuel up to the point that the ecu can still lean it enough when off boost.
After a certain point fuel pressure becomes diminishing return though and only atomises the spray better.
John C.
It is a chassis with a drivers seat on a chassis dyno :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RamAirZ
We are still working on cracking the ECU, got to where we can see the tables, but can't yet tell what we are looking at! Not keen on piggy backs - (we are Haltech agents) but not ruling it out.
Certainly the potential is there for quite a bit more power above what the factory hardware can deliver
Ya, an FMU would work but only to a point and it's not the safest way to do it. For 8psi though I'd run it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hotsauce
So what is the end goal Rob? Just to get a S/C up and running on your VX, or to develop your own kit for resale?
Forgive me if this was explained earlier in the thread, I'm reading the forum on my BlackBerry so I don't have the hour required to read back through the entire thread. :)
Definitely not the first option.. since Rob doesn't have a VX to begin with ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by vt_maverick
Developing the kit for sale is the goal, supercharging my own Isuzu crossbreed on the way :bwgy: All the major parts for 8 kits are sitting in my garage!Quote:
Originally Posted by vt_maverick
There are quite a few people waiting for us to get this sorted, it has taken about twice as long as expected due mostly to the casual attitude of Alpine :upsetgray
Have you got buyers for all your kits??Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbomaz
If not, do you have a price yet??
I am in Tassie, so could do a test fit of all components on a VX before you send any kits to the USA if that is any help.
PK
A couple of questions for Those That Went Before:
Anyone remember what the original Alpine kit sold for?
And did anyone end up buying one of those $250 SCs Magnusson sold on eBay? (we bought four)
We haven't sold any kits - 3 are accounted for here by the main protagonists of the kit revival, which should have left 7 for sale, but Alpine STILL have not come up with the missing parts, so in reality we will have 5, perhaps 6 at a slightly higher price (given that we paid Alpine for 10 sets of parts)Quote:
Originally Posted by PK
I think the Alpine kit was like $500 or something. ;) :naughty:
J/k, I think it was at least $2500 or possibly as high as $3500. But please please please try to keep it lower if you can, especially for those of us in the States who will get absolutely RAPED on the shipping.
I bot one.
Roy
Mine was right around 3k...IIRC, I pulled the trigger when Tone had a sale price of $2800.00.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbomaz
Easily spent another $200 on peripherals, tools, heater hose, anti freeze, this that & the other.
One of the best smiles per mile investments since I bought the truck...:yesgray:
Awwww c'mon! We were planning to be buying Steve Jobs out of Apple with the profits :smilewinkQuote:
Originally Posted by vt_maverick
I do know Alpine made no money on their kits - and our plan was always to cover costs while making a bunch of Isuzu drivers grin like idiots :bwgy: rather than apply retail margins.
We have sunk about $16K into this so far.......and Alpine still owe us intake pipes and fuel rails, which they have been promising for months.:uhohgray:
We will get there! Regarding shipping if a few guys in the US end up wanting them I reckon something could be worked out that wouldnt involve dropping the pants & bending over....
Ah, Alpine made you a promise.... give up. They made me promises for roughly 3 years. A promise that has never been fulfilled.
I was one of the few that bought it way back when first offered by Tone. I believe it was like $3200. Of course, it sat for many years in a box in my basement till I decided to go ahead and install it. All has been great.... though I can't find a decent boost gauge. Been through 2 already and just not happy with them.
What brand gauges? And not happy with the look or something? I ran Auto Meter for my last boosted vehicle with no issues. Had a GlowShift one in the VX that worked good but never saw boost before I got rid of it.
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/s...irZ/gauges.jpg
http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/s...3101500-01.jpg
The kits originally went for 3,000 and he had a sale at 2800 once and I waited and he had a "super sale" around Christmas and I couldn't resist... I picked it up for 2600 I think. Around 2850 total, shipped to AK.
I realllllly want to get a supercharger for my vx really bad
I bought mine directly from Alpine, back in September 2002 for $2600. Since then I've replaced the blower with a rebuilt one that John from Alpine just happened to have. I also went through 3 EGR blocks and am on my second tension pulley bearing. Good news is my VX has 180K miles on it, with 115K of that supercharged. I finally got tired of messing with stripped out threads on my EGR block and had a machinist friend of mine make a block out of ductile iron.
It looks like you guys are really close to getting this thing done.
Way to go!
I am up for one of those kits.
I haven't follow up lately this thread,but waiting to see when rob will have everything together.
Sorry for the thread jack but just had to say hello to Zu4two which I haven't seen around here for a very long time. Hope everything has turned around for you and all is going well. Z42 was along on a few of my very first wheeling VX get togethers!:yesy:
Alpine installed the SC kit on my 3.2V6 crew cab back in 2000. Price was around $2800 at that time. I have since done close to 120K miles without any problems with the kit. In 04, we changed the pulley and upped the boost to 0.4bar. I still have the M62 blower on mine and would love to upgrade to the new M90 kit you guys are busy with. :bwgy:
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Originally Posted by RamAirZ
All AutoMeter. I had tried 2 different ones which I can't recall the models (one had a C/F facing and the other very plain Jane white), but am now using a Cobalt. The previous 2 both decided to just slowly stop working. Not a fan of the Cobalt either so looking to try something different. I am considering trying an SPT gauge from the STi (not mine of course) just because I love the way it looks, heh. Pricey bastards though.
The Alpine S/C on my proton cost around $3200 back around 2004 and it's worked great sicne then.
Also, if anyone's INTERESTED? I do have the original Alpine Manual that came witih my S/C that I can copy for anyone and email to you :bgwo: just in case someone would like one.
I just rebuilt my engine, transmission and transfercase. Put it all back together with the super charger, original Tone/ Alpine $2850 I believe. It has been on for about 70k and worked great. Was wanting to change the super charger oil , any one know what to put in it?
Dan
I might have a manual, think it came on a CD. Do you think that you can upload yours, BeeVenom, it to the file section?
Just get GM Supercharger oil from a dealer. It's pretty cheap. Like $8-$9 a bottle. I think that is what Tone used to recommend.
Thanks WormGod, I will stop by on the way home and see what they have to say.
Dan
Thats what we're using :pQuote:
Originally Posted by WormGod
Well I have a couple of pics of the Swamp Donkey and a small vid. If you guys wouldn't mind going here for a look:
http://forum.australia4wd.com/index....65#entry157137
No animals were hurt during filming
Fire your cameraman.
Now put it in a VX. ;)
OK people!
We are ready to go, but due to the vagaries of dealing with Alpine only 8 kits could be sold, 3 of which have already been sold locally! :bwgy:
Kit price is AUD3200. The kits will be be sold with everything you need to fit a Magnusson MP90 to the 3.5, except the supercharger.
A packaged kit with blower would be a LOT more expensive because we get hit with a lot of govt charges & fees if we bring in a batch of SC's as a company, and to buy in from the US to ship back to a US customer seems counterproductive!
Would those members that bought the MP90s off Ebay a (long) while ago pending us finishing this PM me ASAP to reserve your kits!
Rob
That's about $3233 dollars US. Does it include shipping? And how much to the MP90s cost? Trying to determine complete cost of purchase...
You can get an M90 off ebay for around 200-300 bucks usually.
When I DHL'd 4 SC's from Magnusson it cost me $600 so I would think $150 would cover air shipping
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Originally Posted by Robbomaz
Well,well.
Time to put pennies together :o
I'll definately have wet dreams with that S/C :p
Due to Alpine stiffing us on the one part we cant replicate (got 8 manifolds instead of 10) we only have 8 on offer. Four have sold locally since yesterdayQuote:
Originally Posted by Gussie2000
Dont take too long Gus! :bgwo: