The $5500 VX. You can do allot of Mod's with $8500
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I bet you're referring to the 2001 Foxfire in Mass with 35k. Been watching that on Craigslist for probably 2 months now. Call me crazy, but I'd take the 2001 low miles, over the '99 Kaiser with 130k.
Have to keep in mind I'm a bit biased, since I selected an '01 Foxfire, over a '00 Kaiser.......but other than my color preference, I do have some logic to my choice.....but each of us have our own priorities/reasons.
One main issue is there's been some thought that the '99 engines have more problems with oil consumption than the other 2 yrs.
Our recent, very unscientific poll (http://www.vehicross.info/modules.ph...oll&pollid=170) doesn't solidly support that, but does seem to indicate the 2001 has the least amount of oil consumption. One specific point I note is that there are zero (0) entries for the 2001 yr burning 2 quarts/1000 miles.
There's also a poll on model year engine failure:
http://www.vehicross.info/forums/pol...ults&pollid=58
In that unscientific poll, the '99 did have the most engine failures, I believe, most, from oil consumption issues.
There's also been some posts (perhaps you've seen them) where a few members researched this issue extensively. "Iamironman" apparently did a ton of research and says there was some change made to late 2000 engines to address the starvation issue. There's also some dispute about that as well, but here's some good reading:
http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...ght=built+2000
http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...ght=iamironman
iamironman went on to do an engine swap with an '02 Axiom engine and says he has no oil consumption. http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...ght=iamironman
Regarding price......the $14k price for the '01 with 35k is certainly top top dollar! I paid $10k for mine 20 months ago, 64k. I'm guessing it's been for sale so long because they're not budging on the price. BUT....if you could get it for less than that, my personal opinion is that would be the best choice.
ON THE OTHER HAND.....we're not handy and can't do "mods" or repairs, so lower mileage and lower chance of engine problems was much more important/desirable to us....but YOU may have that skill, like so many do here, and the '99 might be fine. There are certainly MANY MANY examples of high mileage VXs on this forum that are running like a top well into the 100k+ and even a few 200k (deermagnet comes to mind). These have all been well maintained and owned by knowledgeable owners. They've been treated right, and their VX has treated them right in return.
I think finding out as much as you can by way of records, service history, autocheck, professional inspection, ANY INFO, etc...is really important on ANY VX. Good luck in your search!
There's my 2 dollars worth.........
oh, man, whatdaya mean it was supposed to be 2 cents worth? :goof:
Hey Mark what paint did you use on your badge? Mine have a few peeling spots and I think black would look awesome on a proton. Did you take them off first?
This guy can do them in a high quality vinyl for about $20 (if he still has the file):
http://www.jetskidetailing.com/
I painted 'em on the VX. I tried a little paint to check 'em out and ya definitely need primer. I just used the only primer I had on hand, Rustoleum rusty metal primer. Then the next day I used gloss black Rustoleum. I used a 1/4" artist's brush.
I wanted to use liquid mask, but was surprised I couldn't find any at a number of local hobby and craft stores. I was just real careful and when I got some on the clear coat, I wiped it up with alcohol. I'm thinking now the liquid mask woulda been hard to apply in some areas and then hard to remove, so if ya take your time I don't think it's needed.
http://www.drivehq.com/file/df.aspx/publish/mgpa/img/vx/891.jpg
Mark
Has the vinyl dude done them before for a VX owner? - would be interested to see the comparison.
Here's what he sent me when he was working on them. You may want to send the file back to him so he knows what you're talking about.
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...oss_Sample.jpg
I went to look at twistedsymphony's VX today. Its the first time I've sat in the VX. I expected it to be cramped seeing as how i'm almost 6-4. It wasn't too bad. Just not alot of headroom for me. I probably had 1.5 to 2 inches max. The interior was in incredibly excellent condition. The exterior on the other hand shows signs of alot of wear. There was alot of rust on the undercarriage (to be expected on an 11 year old car I guess). There were also little rust spots all around the body. The Vehicross emblems on the sides were taken off and it didn't seem to have been used in months.
I hope if twisted comes back to this site he doesn't get upset about me posting about the VX. It was mostly expected wear for a 99 like I stated before. He had put an aftermarket muffler on it that sounds badass! I'm going to seriously think about it while looking at some other options. My wife would drive this vehicle too and she feels a little uncomfortable with the 130,000 miles. I don't however. I just don't feel comfortable paying what the asking price is for the condition of the exterior. I like my cars looking very nice on the outside more than the inside (I know that sounds weird). I would spend alot of money to fix up the exterior if I bought.
H3,
I would highly suggest you extend your search to find a VX that has not spent it's life in New England... ;)
I grew up in Chelmsford, Ma (not too far from you) and therefore, my autobody career started back there. So, I have worked on my share of rusted vehicles...
Not only do you get the rust spots on the body, but what I really hated, was quite often, the small 10mil bolts would get rusted and when you tried to take them out they would snap right off. Then your drilling and extracting, sometimes tapping new threads, etc...
Moving out to Az and working on vehicles that haven't been cursed with the rust "cancer" made a huge difference in how I viewed used vehicles... and our beloved VX's definately fall into that used category.
Good luck in your search!
Dan
x2. There are a lot of southern and western VXes out there that will be largely rust free. I suggest that if you really want a nice VX, be patient, and stash away $500 so you can fly to whereever it is you find a nice one and drive back. And a lot of us on here are willing to go look at VXes for other members, so if you find one somewhere, let us know and whoever is closest might be willing to take a look at it for you.
:thumbup: Bart
A guy here in town is going up to Michigan tomorrow to pick up an 01' Ebony with 80K miles for $8000. He was waiting by my VX last week when I came out of work with his wife and said they had been looking for one and didn't even know there was one already in town lol. He was sad because he thought he would be the first around here. He's driving up not flying though (which I would do if you can because what if something breaks on your way home that you don't expect, be nice to have a ride). Like I told ya in my PM, the right one will find you!
You guys are all so great. And I thought the guys on my HUMMER club were awesome. Thanks so much! The search shall continue. I will be checking Craigslist, autotrader and ebay daily.
www.autotempest.com will get them all with one touch...:bgwo::bgwb::bwgy::smilewink
Here's another site you might check w/about 100 VX ads. I use this site allot for Bikes...
http://www.jaxed.com/cgi-bin/mash.cg...mit=++++go++++
Since we are sharing secrets here is my favorite search engine
www.craiglook.com Idk how popular it is, but I use it every day :)
Hi. My name is Chris and I just purchased a 2000 Ebony. Apparently it was a Florida police interceptor for the first couple years of its life. Carfax records seem to support this along with the blackened right side reflectors! I stumbled on this VX 3 weeks ago looking for a jeep. I said to the dealer "What is that thing..its Ugly." He said "Yeah but you watch how fast it sells." Then I said "It looks like a big roller skate or something"..... Odd how it grew on me.
Welcome to the fam.....we see the addiction has worked quite quickly on you!
Where did you pick yours up??
Not sure which exact reflectors you're talking about, but there's a company that sells blackened front side fender lenses /reflectors (the triangle shape one) and the front turn signal lenses.....KLEARZ.com
Also, some have sprayed their lenses.
Welcome Chris...funny how the VX just continues to grow on you the longer you have it.
Keep everyone posted on what mods you plan on. Lots of great guys/gals here with plenty of help and great support.
Welcome, Chris. You're not gonna believe it, but it looks like we had four previous owners of that VX as members here, making you the fifth known member here with a 2000 ebony #0013. That has gotta be a new record!
scott20024 from VA way back in '03 on 20's with some pics.
Chrissepwoz from NJ in '04.
Jax VX from FL in '05.
brent laudicina from FL in '08.
None of these members made very many posts here.
Mark Griffin
I got excited for a moment i went looking to see if I could find who had mine before I got it but no match on the VIN or they weren't a registered user.
WOW that ebony had quite an east coast journey.
My names Evan. Just moved down to south carolina from Colorado bought my VX I guess less than a week ago. Needs work but thats what makes it worth it.
Welcome to the party Evan.
Lots of great guys/gals here to help and offer advice and support.
Too bad you had to leave CO!
Thanks for the welcoming everyone. And yes Mark I knew it had a history like that cause I carfaxed it. It is interesting though to know the previous owners were forum members!!
I joined a while back then my computer went k-poot so i got a new one and here i am! Better late than never. Ha Ha There are some really cool and informative people here with some of the most beautiful VX's i've ever seen.
Just goes 2 show that the imagination is limitless and the VX is an amazing canvas to work with. I spotted my first VX 2 yrs ago sitten at an automotive shop i about broke my neck & wrecked my car. I went back the next day and asked what the heck is that ? And i want it !!! Well the owner of that VX was out of Country.....go figure. As luck would have it I worked at a car dealrship at the time & had my boss dig one up for me so off to the auction we went. By 5 pm the evening ol' Black Betty was mine! wham balam ! I will never owen a car again. I'm glad i found you guy's looking forward to talking trucks, trading tips, and swapin mud. Red
Now I know who put that sub woofer hole in the back door!!!!
Yes the addiction was quick. I have been bored with Jeeps and this vehicle has the short wheelbase bulldog look I like. As for the Police interceptor the right front and rear quarterpanel reflectors are blackened, there are Police interceptor badges and the vehicle picked up 75,000 miles in the first 2 years of its life. I kind of think it is genuine except that it was registered to an individual. So my question is "do they sometimes register unmarked vehicles to individuals so that the plates are not marked to a municipality" If anyone knows the answer please respond. It pleases me somewhat to think that it may have received fleet maintenance. Chris.:happyface
How do you search the members to see who had it? Maybe someone had mine?
Quick Links ---> Member's List
Search Members ---> Advanced Search
Put the last 4 digits of the VIN in the appropriate blank and then weed out the wrong years and wrong colors from the results screen. :)
(Sorry, it didn't look like it was possible to link to the results, but your VX is unique to the forum.)
Congratulations & welcome to Evansons32 & Ebenezr & Red (from another newbie.) :)
Well it was nobody's on here, VX Crazy's is #1209 but it's an 01' Kaiser
Be careful what you wish for. After looking up a previous owner of my 1999 Ironman that was registered here, I was dismayed to see he drove almost 9 mos. with a leaking intake gasket. Several folks mentioned it to him, but he was always content to throw more "carb clehaner" in the tank and take it back to his "mechanic". Same problem month after month. Just never would listen to the knowledge of the group.
Though this was before the shop manual was made available for downloading to all.
Oh well, the 5.3L CSB is already mounted, so I don't have to worry about those MIL errors popping up every couple of months and costing a couple hundred it time to make it go off.
true that. did you go with an iron or aluminum block?
Welpp i'm new here i just came across my vehicross for the first time about 3 weeks ago for my first car on my 16th birthday.. We actually came across the VX for free. it was sitting in a apartment complex right down the street and they just wanted it off their hands. so i got a free amazing suv thing lol. i love this vx i love how it turns and stops on a dime and well just gets so many looks every where i go and i can outrun most every jeep in mud.
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...h/de5a3972.jpg
Wow, CONGRATULATIONS and Welcome! Lucky, lucky, lucky, lucky, lucky!
Iron - had a lot more of those available around here. And I found one with less than 60K on it, and the price was great. I will have to move the A/C compressor up top to keep it out of the mud. (Sorry for hi-jacking the thread. We now return to our regularly scheduled program...)
Sam
lucky man, a VX for free!
i know it only needed 400$ worth of work and it only has 98,000 miles on it :D