OK people all the parts are now finished machining, just arranging the shipping from Alpine to us here and we will have some photos to drool over :)
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OK people all the parts are now finished machining, just arranging the shipping from Alpine to us here and we will have some photos to drool over :)
Good news :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Robbomaz
LOL
Oh soo true!!!
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PM me three!!!
How close are the kits to being done and for sale? Do fuel pump or injectors need upgrading? How is computer modified? What about the mass air? I'm sure an upgraded meter would increase the performance with a sc. Any pricing ideas? Thanks!!!
FWIW, all the stock bits that you make mention of work fine with the Alpine kit up to 5 lb boost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrmonk7663
Fuel pump, injectors, ECM, MAF, all stock, no issues.
But what if we get greedy lol. Do we have options for this?
That option is sometimes associated with transmissoin replacement...the next weakest link down the line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrmonk7663
Greedy? There will be options :bgwb: Our 400K+ kilometre test mule will be getting a probgrammable ECU and boost to destruction once the base kit setup is done :yesy: - although if we see 300kW at the wheels on the dyno with an undamaged engine we may stop there......or not! :bgwo:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrmonk7663
OK people!
Here we are well into 010 and still waiting....manifolds got cast, there was an issue with a core moving which was only discovered when the CNC mill broke thru into a void that should not have been there, and I'm quite sure there has been a lot of New Year procrastination in SA..... however, the first full batch of parts should hit Fedex soon, and pics and detailed postings will follow once I have real 'what we all will be using' parts in my hands.
I shan't say I'm excited, or make any reference to timeframe, there is only so much egg on face a bloke can stand! :bgwo:
This just in: Email from Alpine saying the parts can be packed for Fedex......please note they havent said they ARE packed, but they CAN be :bgwo:Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbomaz
I thought Australia was a laid back place!:yesb:
:sleepgray...:tweed:...:laughing:Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbomaz
Kidding Rob...:flower:
Anyone who has ever had any dealings with alpine, wether directly or indirectly, knows what a valuable commodity patience can be...:yesgray:
Good job so far...:thumbup:
So true Dubbs, so true. I believe after 8 years now, I am still waiting on my extended cruise control cable that they forgot to package in, from them, heh.
Its out of warranty now Worm :luck:
In my dealings with them, it was out of warranty the second they shipped it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbomaz
All the way from Sewth Efrika :bgwb:
Job #1 of the kits!
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Off to the workshop I go!!!!
Awesome! Me wants one!!!!! I'll ship you my VX for testing, wink wink
The thing(s) that makes me a little "gunshy" about the development so far...
No fuel rails & no provision for the EGR.
I do realize that this is a process, & also that Alpine Developments moves at a pace that's known to all who have ever had any dealings with them as slooooooooow.
hhhmm, ya the fuel rail thing would need to be addressed but worse comes to worse, you can make your own rails if the stocks won't fit, it's not hard. Get some fuel rail stock, make some brackets, get some injectors, wire up with yuor stock injector wiring, some an- braided lines and fittings and voila! I'd probably run an adjustable FMU on it too to dial in the right amount of fuel since we don't have tuning software yet for these things (probably never will :( unless you switch to megasquirt for the fuel and ignition controls ). And I wouldn't be too worried about EGR, it can be plumbed up another way or you can delete it all together. Make an adapter plate to dump it behind the throttle body or even in front of the throttle body.
Re: fuel rails and EGR
Ya, but that's a lot of "make" and "mod" yourself for a S/C kit. I would expect to get everything in 1 package (like Alpine attempted to do, but failed) for the amount of $$ I am spending.
And fuel rails need to be JUST RIGHT to work with the injectors. Plenty of thought and planning needs to go into that design. One screw up, and your VX gets a free flame job. ;)
If you've done them before it's not too difficult, especially if the injector bungs are already drilled at the proper angle and diameter to seal/work properly. Depending on the price I would feel the same way. But I'm a tinkerer and love making my own stuff so at the right price this would be right up my alley lol, that and I've done similar stuff before so it's not foreign to me
Agreed fuel rails are not hard if you have done them, and agreed it would be intimidating if you hadnt done them before, and agreed for a premium priced kit you would expect to just bolt it on - we aint HKS! :smilewink
We are going to have a turn key system too, but I for one would like to accomodate the tinkerers too :bwgy:
EGR for us on our trucks is a 'dont care' but we also realise that for a lot of people retaining it is important so it wont be forgotten, I imagine as an 'include' option
Fuel rails will be included, they are not in that pic because *cough* we havent received them yet......:upsetgray
We are working on cracking the ECU, have got to 'handshake' stage but havent got access to the lookup tables yet....:upsetgray
That may not help you in the US as our ECU, while still a Delco is different to yours.
Good to hear! Except the part about your ecu being different :(
Apologies for the fuzzies....late at nite, workshop lighting not the best, iphone blah blah :)
We are making progress and we are STILL waiting for the rest of the parts from Alpine....:mado:
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Sheesh....this has turned into 'Robs Excellent Adventure' - only without the excellent part....not yet anyway:bgwo:
lol I'm just glad your working on it, I REALLY want one of these on my VX, just waiting on you sir hehe It's looking good!
It looks like you can cut the stock fuel rails and join the 2 sides with a piece of high pressure hose to make it fit.
John C.
The stock fuel rail reversed will fit too - that puts the feed and return at the front of course, although the lines can fit under the manifold in the V easily enough. Appeals a little because of the pig-dog awful access to anything at the rear of these engines! Seems a little 'inelegant' though, some nice alloy rail extrusions look better :smilewinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Hotsauce
Placed the request for pickup from South Africa today :bwgy: Will have ALL the parts in my sweaty hands soon!
Please disregard any pricing discussions - Our final cost price was impossible for me to calculate as Alpine were vague and shipping was incomplete! Once this shipment lands all our out-of-pockets are over (and there has been quite a lot believe me!:mad:) and I can do more than just guess what a kit might cost.
Thought it would take 12 months - I waz wrong!
Like I said on the Planet, I can't wait for you guys to finish this thing, if you get everything up and running I won;t be thinking about an engine swap anymore
FYI - a crew of Russian VXers are on a project of integrating a ROTREX C30-94 S/C into their VXers... I wonder which project comes to life first? :)
I hear Duke Nuke'm Forever is being released soon.
:laughing: "I don't have time to play with myself"Quote:
Originally Posted by Grif
Bart
We are moving at Alpine speed Petos...:upsetwgra so I think you will :smilewinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Petos
All the packages arrived but only about 80% of what we were expecting was in the boxes...and now two weeks since email sent wit no response...how they survive in business is beyond me!
They rang me! Apparently the last of our stuff is being dispatched this week...
*falls off chair laughing*
I really have been reading up on this and this will be very helpful
Well we are still waiting for fewell rails from SA, but we are pushing ahead with #1 - not pretty but will work fine :bwgy:
REALLY must tidy up the shop - might allocate hours 25 & 26 out of each day to that
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Brains
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On the dyno soon :bgwo:
Looks like they changed the drive design (went from cast to billet back to a new casting). Can you take some measurements of the drive (nose)? Also, is the unit still an MP62 or is it another model? I'd like to get mine put back on and I'm trying to decide if I want to replace the drive or have it rebuilt (not sure if the cast nose is worth rebuilding).
-- John
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Originally Posted by johnnyapollo
I'm pretty sure its MP90... looks like it + see the beginning of this thread ;)
This thread's been going on so long that I don't remember it from others - thanks for the clarification...
It is an MP90. This snout is cast. We've done some machining on this particular one.
Short vid of first fire:
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John I will have snout/pulley offset dims soon but this snout has been machined down and we have moved the SC position on the manifold so our measurements won't help you.