LOL Bart...not really my taste either...
...but its bullet proof "Yacht" paint (Awlgrip) , that was done before I owned her.
Tell ya what...gimme $7500....and I'll rattle can her matt black for ya!
Porsches are about the only super car that is actually a good daily driver.
911's have changed more than you think.Look at the older models compared to the new ones.Way different, yet recognizeable as a 911
haha.. most all of the bmw owners ive met are the same way.. although ive known 1-2 cool ones
if you look at www.youparklikeanasshole.com like half the cars parked like jerks are bmws
+1!! I agree - BMW owners seem to be in aggregate much bigger jerks than Porsche owners, ...although YMMV, as in all things. There is no shortage of German-sports-car-owing pricks, and they cover all the marques.
My own experience in the Porsche Club of America has been pretty much prickless, though. They are for the most part all nice people without any I'm-better-than-you attitude... just a bunch of gearheads, and that's the level they interact on,a dn they don't differentiate between members that go for the newest and highest-performance models and those (like me) that dig the older classics. One member can be a million-dollar-salary CEO and the next one a blue-color machinist, but the difference never comes into play... they are all about the cars.
I'd have to agree with that, in terms of the 911 versus similar true sports cars. The 911 is the only one that you can really live with and rely on.
I think I would quite enjoy a Cayman S as a summer DD, but that's just not in the cards at this time, if ever: you see, my personal little financial mantra goes like this... "I hope to have the income to buy a brand-new new $70k car... and the good sense not to."
So I get to tell this joke: Do you know the difference between a BMW and a porcupine? On a porcupine, the pri(k is on the outside!
Thank you! I'll be here all week!
Randy
um, i know once again there aren't many japanese sports car fans...and when i say sports car i dont mean <$35,000....
what about 300zx?? reliable as long as it isnt the twin-turbo one (thats what i have read, and maybe crotchrocket can chime in on reliability on those)
and the honda S2000??? its actually a very quick car, all you need to do is free up the air system and chip it...bam lots of horsepower and almost 50-50 weight distribution (ya it wont keep up with a porsche on the straights but its also <$40,000)
STI- 35k and reliable, handles like a son-of-a-*&^#....and i would love to see a porsche in the mountains of colorado snow vs. STI (and this is as ricey as i consider when talking about japanese sports car)
NSX??- plenty reliable and has the best rating for handling during the years it was produced....not really fast stock, but that can be fixed easily and similar to the S2000
i would say skyline but its not reliable, neither is the supra, or the RX-7
mazdaspeed3??? 30K and plenty reliable....0-60 in about 5.5 (i dont know specific stats but i know its faster than the STI)
oh, and in defense of german-
M3....wow....would love to have one if i could keep it on the road without dropping all of my money on it every year...
Another candidate for the "Other vehicles like the VX: Affordable, limited production, crazy owner obsession" category: Saab 9-3 Viggen
About 3000 made, much higher performance capability than the standard 900/9-3s, active mod community etc.
I mostly meant that Porsche in general makes the most livable high-performance sports cars (like Ferraris, Astons, etc). I have no anti-ricer bias at all... my favorite car I've owned is still my '97 Prelude SH.
The Mazdaspeed 3 is a great little screamer, but it's not in the high-performance category. The GTR/Skyline certainly is, though!
NSX and 300 ZX are no longer available. The 370Z will run with a Cayman, though.
S2000 is not that livable as a daily driver in my book.
The Car & Driver editors would take an M3 over a 911, so that's certainly in the running, too.
The STi might beat a 911 C4 on a snowy road, but not on a track.
Anyway, those are all fine choices in their categories.
What about the Studebaker Avanti?
http://www.ritzsite.net/63Stude/1963...Avanti_f3q.JPG
http://www.ritzsite.net/63Stude/1963...Avanti_r3q.JPG
A fine nomination!
There's one that lives near me. I gag every time I see it. I know it's supposed to be fast, but it can't be faster than it is ugly!
Funny stuff, yeah, we have gone to 3 or 4 PCA meet ups since December and all the people we have met are really cool and down to Earth, just like 90% of the VXers I have met. :)
Bart
Totally agreed in general!
The S2000 is not livable as a daily driver in my book because it is has very little storage space and keeping the engine boiling at over 3k rpm on your way to work in the morning while you're trying to drink your coffeee and listen to NPR gets on your nerrves very quickly. Two people I know well had them - one bought another car as his DD, the other traded the S2k in on a Boxster S.
no one has mentioned my current car love... the Nissan 240sx
the 240 isn't in itself rare but there were a few rare versions.
the 91-94 Convertible .. less than 8000 made in the USA
http://images03.olx.com/ui/2/07/33/f_18190433_1.jpeg
it wasn't released anywhere else in the world.
Japan received only 600 of the Silvia convertible which is based on the same chassis, just with a different motor and front end (the convertible mechanism was different too) many people do silvia conversions to their 240s since the body parts are interchangeable.
http://forums.240sxone.com/picture.p...&pictureid=144
^this car belongs to a friend of mine it's a 240sx convertible that has had the front end and motor swapped to look like a Silvia.
Also the 97-98 240sx called the "kouki" (Japanese for late period) only saw less than 7000 released in the USA...
http://www.mynismo.com/images_products/4090.jpg
^all OEM aero with aftermarket wheels
I own a 1995 240sx that I plan on converting to a kouki (body parts are interchangeable) I plan on buying a 240sx convertible sometime next year if I can find one :)
Even though the 1995-1996 body style like mine (called "zenki" for early period) isn't as desirable as the kouki style, it's still pretty uncommon with only 30,000 being releases in the US.
[QUOTE=twistedsymphony;152071]no one has mentioned my current car love... the Nissan 240sx
Also the 97-98 240sx called the "kouki" (Japanese for late period) only saw less than 7000 released in the USA...
http://www.mynismo.com/images_products/4090.jpg
^all OEM aero with aftermarket wheels. [QUOTE]
ah man i knew i was forgetting something ;)
those are very very nice cars! tons of two-ford freaks out there!
i love the kouki versions, along with the silvia S15, those are one of my dream cars...
http://www.driftingstreet.com/images...silvia-s15.jpg
my mechanic has a 240 with a skyline conversion on it...R32 motor i believe...
he has a few cars actually...most of them i am very jealous of ;)
240sx with skyline conversion
97 integra with JDM front end
R35
F350 with around 8-10" of lift and tires to match, to pull his 240 to the drift comps
93 hatch civic...12.5 quarter mile with no forced induction (H22 heavily built motor, lighted up the whole car, ZEX nitrous)
I didn't read this entire post but did anyone mention the poor man's exotic, the Subaru SVX?
I have had several, still have one, and can attest to the fanaticism of the ownership ranks. I am actually here because I would like a nice VX.
Actually Dayle, who runs motorsportwarehouse.com, is an SVX person and a VX guy too. You probably know that he is carrying VX items on his site along side the vast SVX inventory.
I hope to have a VehiCross in my stable in the next year.
Is anyone here in Western Mass?
Christian
Heres one that seems to fit the title ( i think)
Little bit of insight to them before you click the wiki link.
A total of 15,852 units were built and registered in Japan, however with niche market car importing occurring in the early 1990s it is possible that some vehicles were constructed and exported directly from Japan without first being registered there. This makes it difficult to know exactly how many Seras were produced, although it is certainly less than 16,000 and they are now becoming rare collectibles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Sera
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...oyota-Sera.jpg
http://www.cargurus.com/images/2008/...7/pic-4543.png