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OK...here are my problems. Minor, but irritating as hell:
1. Passenger side window motor--R.I.P. (binding before it bit before it went to motor heaven).
2. Hood rubber seals working loose. *Fixed that with 3m glue.
3. Drivers side window binding. May have to try "Bert's window fix" on that one.
4. Ignition key starting to stick.
John
#( 97)!!
Okay, my VX friends, here's the deal: My 2001 VX, has the nutorious, drivers' side, "wet spot"!!! I am taking my VX back to the dealership on Monday! These people in the service department, must live with their heads up their a$$es!! (to say the least)! Or, they really are mean spirited people and love to mess with me by making me come back, week after week!! Can anyone, who's had this problem and by some miracle, actually had a correct diagnosis and solution for this, please list for me, where the water is coming from?? My leak is on the drivers' side floor board, where my right foot would rest, if it weren't stepping on the gas. Hope that makes sense! I plan to copy off your posts and bring them with me when I go out there next week. Also, obviously, the mat under the carpet needs to be replaced, but, the carpet itself, is wearing real bad where it's wet! Shouldn't that be replaced as well?? My VX is still under warranty, shouldn't all of that be covered too? Please help me!! Thankyou!!! Oh yeah, I've had the problem with the rubber around the headlights and both regulators replaced! Also, my stock wheels were peeling! Roy, I hope that Brayley and Grahm fixed that for you and didn't jerk you around, like they've been jerking me!!! Thanks again for purchasing the set from me!!
Hi Laurie,
B and G said my 2001 had some level of warrentee ending at 3 years or 36,000 mi. I was at 3 years and 3 months with 35900, when I drove in. I left the rims for the Izusu rep to see. Two weeks later they had new rims for me. I bot the extended warrentee from Isuzu for $1300 and it is called a WRAP policy on the docs. I asked about how to go after my water leak and a 1441 check engine light that I have had for a long time. They said I would have to leave the car and get a rental. The issues may or may not be covered, I can't get a straight answer without jumping in. What I get for the WRAP policy is not clear.
I would hope with you living closer to the dealer, you may get a faster response, which I will be following closely. Mike has been my contact. You might remind him I was in with the same problems 2 weeks ago.
I had rubber mats, so I did not notice the water for some time. I pulled the seat out, (4 bolts with Loc-Tite) and the door sill plastic. I used bath towels to wick out the water over two days. I then found the padding and foam block under the seat was also wet. Everything is dry now with no bad smell. Cool weather must have stopped the mold growth. I am now parking inside until I can pull off the windshield coweling and look for gap in the firewall to fender seal.
Closing the car and running the heater fan. Squirting soapy water around the suspect joints and searching for bubbles, has been suggested.
Roy
Hi Roy!!! It's good to hear from you!! I hope my stock tires are serving you well!!! Anyhow, I'll tell you Roy, I am at my wit's end with B&G!!! They are completely jerking me around, about this water leak!! They are trying to blame the wires, that run along the weather stripping, on my windows, from the off road lights on my cargo rack!!!! It's like they don't want to put any effort into finding out where the water is coming from!!! After hearing this theory several times from ,'Steve'," the angry, I hate my job and want all of my customers to know it, service guy", I finally told the man, that this 'wet spot' was present, BEFORE, I had the rack and lights put on!!! Unfortunately,I will most likely be leaving my VX there for at least 2 days! Don't you think that they should just give us a rental car, until our rigs are ready??? I don't think that we should have to pay!!! What do you think?? So, is your leak fixed? If so, where was it coming from?
LITTLELAURIE
I didn't know whether you may have already seen this thread, but it contained a couple of possible fixes for various water leaks that may help.
http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...light=floormat
I had also emailed one of our members quite a while back (don't remember his ID though) about his cure for the leak in his VX, and this was his email response...
"It was a body seam on the drivers side door. The guy just told me he had to take the door off to fix the seam.
First I took it to a guy (body-shop)who said it was a leak under my dash and he took the entire dash out and plugged a hole he saw there. That stopped the leaking about 20%. I was pretty mad at that point because it cost me $276 and they kept it for 4 days.
Then I took it to a glass guy, he said he removed my door and repaired the body seam. Now I don't know what that means, but that only cost me $76 and about 1/2 day.
Since then my leak is 100% gone."
Hopefully these will at least help you track down the problem area.
Laurie
Call up and ask for Mike. Explain the problems in communicating with Steve (Who I have not met). Tell him about the leak prior to the wires. Offer to remove the wires. Hopefully he will give in and and commit to find the leak. The specific experiences here should help your case. Mike said that under the warrentee, we coud get the rental covered. I may be too far gone, but you are driving a newer ride.
I am keeping under cover for now. I still have the leak.
Roy
Petition signature #99
1. Headlight Rubber Seal/gasket
2. Bouncy rear shocks.
They seem to be shot. When going over a speed bump the vx slams down in the rear just after the rear tire clears the sb. Seems the shock can't hold the weight of the vx.
3. Transfer case.
Under hard accelleration the front drive seems to, in an instant, slip out of drive and then back into drive. Causeing a loud thump. Not all the time but occassionally. Only once did it happen while under a slow accelleration. As a result I rarely do hard accellerations.
Hi,
My VX is a 99 and has just under 70K miles. Right now, the torque sensors are out so my 4WD isn't working, I was quoted $1600 to fix that. I just had the oxygen sensor, main inline gasket, air tank bolts, several other valves and another gasket (don't even know what it is) replaced at a cost of $810 less than a month ago. Now, driving today, I have the check engine and check trans lights on again and my fuel sensor is out. The bugger is going in tomorrow to see what new and fascinating things have gone wrong now.
Before all of this, I had to have the driver side window motor replaced ($400) and the key would get stuck in the ignition so they did something (another $400) to fix that! Not to mention the cd player has never properly worked and the speakers were a problem until I had the system rewired and two replaced.
What is going on here? There is another Isuzu VX (yellow) sitting at the dealership (Denver Isuzu) that I have taken my VX to which apparently blew the entire engine.
I'm happy to sign any petition and interested in any replies regarding legal action that might be taken.
Thanks,
Jennifer Hoppe
303-818-5308
jen@jenniferh.com
1. common window sticking problem, lube helped but glass still "unstable" or loose
2. gaskets around headlights coming unglued, replaced gaskets
3. emblems chrome plating peeling
4. corrosion on wheels, peeling wheels, purchased aftermarket wheels
5. cd player malfunction, replaced unit once
4WD - The vehicle speed sensor(s) could be out. 2 bolts each, and they can be found in most salvage yards. You can get new ones for less than a couple hundred dollars.Quote:
Originally Posted by tigress
O2 sensor, main inline gasket, air tank bolts, valves and gasket...? - The O2 sensor, I could buy at 70k miles, but the other items... Don't even exist. I've been around engines my whole life - this sounds shady.
The window binding is a $5 fix. Even a new motor (if it were required) would be a third of what they charged you.Quote:
Before all of this, I had to have the driver side window motor replaced ($400) and the key would get stuck in the ignition so they did something (another $400) to fix that!
The key's a new one on me - It was probably a shoddy copy and just needed brushing up.
You need to take legal action - against your service center.Quote:
I'm happy to sign any petition and interested in any replies regarding legal action that might be taken.
YOU ARE GETTING ROBBED.
Some places assume that since you drive an odd vehicle, you are willing (and able) to pay whatever it takes to get it fixed.
You drive an Isuzu Trooper, with a fancy body kit -nothing more.
Make sure that your service manager is aware of this, and you won't stand for these bogus 'repairs,' because right now, you are making someone rich.
EDIT: After rereading my post (and realizing that this was your first vist to the boards) I have to clear up a few things:
The VX is as reliable as any average SUV. Better than a Mercedes, worse than a Toyota. Somewhere in the middle.
We gripe about them because we are picky. We tend to notice things that most others would look over.
We are small in numbers, so it's easier to find others with the same or similar issues -there's only one home for us, right here at .info.
As owners of rare/unusual vehicles, we do get taken advantage of. Stick around the boards for a few days; you'll see that if you want something done right -do it yourself. That's where we come in.
ARGH
I waited, last year, for 4 months for a catalytic converter. No rental, no helpf from dealership. I have had same problems with headlights (have replaced both of them) I have owned for less than five years!!
Now I'm weaiting (backorderd) for a mirror and have to decide about the CD.
I have an 01' Mica Green VX. The rims are peeling. It's all there - we all have the same issues. Think carefully - could anyone from Isuzu afford to acknowledge these inherent problems? I think not. What liability it would incur. Now we know why they stopped making them.
Anyone say ... Fleeced!
Keep the petition going. Hopefully Isuzu will take action. I have a 2000 Vehicross and a 1999 Amigo. If the problems are not fixed and continue, I will look for another manufacturer for my next vehicle. Toyota, Nissan or maybe go back to american built.
Problems with my 2000 VX at 39,000 miles.
1. Hood release will not work most of the time. Have tried to fix but nothing permanent.
2. Glass covers on headlights starting to look faded.
3. Carbon Fiber hood insert starting to crack.
4. CD player acting up.
This might not seem like much, but I have read on this site that numerous VX owners are having the same problems. Lets get Isuzu to acknowledge their problems and fix them.
You guys do realize that Isuzu is all but dead in the US don't you?
They don't care what we think, nor who we buy our next car from. That's why we are here to help each other resolve our problems.
I don't think that anyone here was 'forced' to buy their VXs. If you were looking for a 5 year old mini-SUV, you could have found a lot more for a lot less money.
We bought our VXs because we wanted them -not because they were all that we could afford -it's not like this is a Kia discussion group...
Window problems.
Wiper paint.
I've just purchased a used VX; however, it didn't come with an owner manual.
Can you guys tell me where I can find the winter drive and the power drive buttons
and how to engage and disengage the winter drive or power drive mode. My power
drive indicator light just came on today and I figure that I must have hit something
accidentally.
Thanks for helping out
Henry
www.helminc.com for the manual, or wait for one to show up on ebay.
Push the power button again so it pops up, light should go out. Many people on this board leave theirs on though: better performance and, apparently, more mpg with it on.
Both buttons are located in the console. The Winter mode can only be engaged when stopped, and automatically disengages when you hit about 20 mph. It lets you start off in third gear. The Power mode but can be toggled on and off and will stay in whatever mode was last selected. Power mode adjusts the transmission for firmer and later shifts. Like Henry said, many of us keep it in Power mode all the time. I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by txvx
Nice comments.. guess this is an ongoing gripe session.. would like to see some links to fixes..
well here is My gripe... My windows have never worked since I bought Mine new in july 02, and at 30,000 miles i didnt think it would be this bad now..
did warrenty on passenger window.. all that resulted was broken window and wrong tint color.. the problem came back 6 months later... now the driverside.. was perfect till the other day when it just dropped into oblivion on the way up..
I guess I will try a bodyshop.. since they work on everything maybe will be a fresh perspective.. gotta love those "money is no object" crisises when it comes to a vehicle so unique you are addicted to it...
hope to see others here in arizona .. have seen quite a few
# 135
2000 Green Dragon 38,000 milels
Hood will not release from inside VX
Cracks in CF hood insert
Rear Speakers sound bad
Headlight cloudy
Driver seat problems
I am worried because of all the problems reported from the VX owners.
My VX only has 38,000 miles. Am not looking forward to these problems.
Try turning the threaded rubber bumpers on the radiator cross brace out a few turns on each side, and lubricate the hood latch mechanism with white lithium spray grease (NOT WD-40) for your hood release problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark B
Your other issues (with possible exception of "driver seat problems"-elaborate?) are not that unusual for a 6-7 year old vehicle. The factory speakers were not that great to begin with. The original hood insert panel was not CF so if yours is, then somebody replaced it, in which case the cracks would not be Isuzu's fault.
also for the hood, make sure the release latch under the dash is secure and as far towards the drivers seat as possible, the first time i took my dash apart the hood release didnt work when i put it all back together, just didnt tighten it down enough which caused it to move back when i pulled on the latch
Hood insert cracked,both windows not operable,cd player keeps cd's,excessive oil useage.
And Isuzu is disappearing. My local place "Showcase Isuzu" in Bourne, MA which at one time was one of the largest Isuzu dealerships in MA has vanishied. Now the issue IMHO is getting parts.
Own 4 99s.
2 have broken crankshafts.
3 have the window problem
4 have no headlamp gaskets
2 have bad CD changers
FEW places can service trhe transmission properly!
Dealers have minimal parts and no trained techs who care about a 99
The 2 with blown engines/bad crankshafts I purchased that way so dont know if any other troubles besides headlamp gskts,windows and CD
The truck with 44K only has the headlamp gaskets missing but I know the windows will screw up sooner or later.
Isuzu in El Paso, texas are no help and seem to be A##holes. like many Texans!
I have owned 10 Troopers and most never had anything w
rong. Last one sold had 266K and the frame rusted out as it was an Ohio Truck. The Mexicans I sold it to are still running it. these were from 86 to 92s. Seems the quality and engineering was shortcuted in the VX- a Passport engine? HOWEVER< I love my IRONMAN, in spite of the problems and will sell the 44K truck and rebuild one of the blown ones. MY 2 1/2 cents MRMG Less trouble out of my lucas wired 57 MGA!
For a 30 K$ vehicle in 99, I would expect more.
Isuzu USA can forget about me buying any more product!
I may have to go back to dodge! Hope the suits read these!
Almost forgot 3 have :confused: the hood release trouble. I think I can remove hood and elongate holes to fix. Spent 4 hours on the good Ironman to fix it, will open if you get out and bang the hood. I was so pissed I dented the hood one day with my fist before I spent the time and got it a little better, but not right. Were all the VXs built on a monday or friday??
:( Well I am # 147 on petition DO they care?
after reading others troubles, I remembered I have a few more of the common gripes.
peeling emblems that are very expensive to replace, If you can find them. Shocks leaking. other troubles.
I guess the engineers never drove one at nite, My next mod is a light in the black hole cargo area. I will do the door poper at the same time.
What about the crap spare that may screw up the TOD if used - or am I wrong? I bought another wheel, carry a full size spare off road and keep good tires on the truck at all times.
theheadlamps are scrached and faded and cost more than a room in the trump tower! Gives new meaning to JAP scrap as my pals at the GM factory used to say!!!!!!!!! a love hate relationship and a thin line , between love and hate!
:p well I spoke too soon.. yesterday.. the second of 4 spare tire cover keepers.. broke.. oh ya.. also have the fading lights and cracked hood insert,, still love it and will be keeping it alonnnng time.... no one will buy it for what I want out of it.
now for the good stuff.. what a 4wheeler.. pod on a quad is the perfect description
have taken it on a few quad trails and got that arizona pinstriping...
3 transmissions replaced by 30K miles
6-disc CD player broke at 30K miles (little plastic pieces in there don't stand up to the rough ride and break off) - dealership would not replace
Loose seals around windows (not leaky, but noisy)
Odometer quit @ 75k
Fuel pressure regulator quit. at 75K
Bolts vibrated loose and almost dropped the drive shaft @75K (dealership tightened for free after initially wanting to charge $50.)
Paint coming off the decals.
Yeah, that was the first thing to break on my 2000 ironman. First, disc 6 quit, but the others still worked. Then one day the whole damn thing just stopped working. Haven't replaced it yet (starving student). Just the other day had my front right cv axle replaced and 48 hrs later its back in the shop getting replaced again (thank God for the part and labor warranty). I've also had problems with the rubber around the headlights disintegrating and the chrome on the rims peeling. There are times when having a rare unique car works against you (i.e. 4000 total vx's built=extremely expen$ive and hard to find replacement parts). I guess this kind of thing makes me actually appreciate the way GM makes almost all of their cars have interchangeable parts;)
Oh yeah; that reminds me, my hood release now requires someone to pull it while I pry the f*****g hood open. That and the radiator I had to replace last summer. I need to stop reading these forums; they're making me recall all the crap I've fixed and I'm gettin pissed off all over again.
Hey buddy, would you be willing to sell me some small parts off one of the broken ones?? I need that back plastic panel on the back door, a CD changer, a dome light, front bumper, and the shift lever for the tranny. Email me at donknight82@hotmail.com or call at (509) 230-2291. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by mistermg
The problem with isuzu is that they never went the extra mile to make a better truck.
The vehicross deserved a better engine than this junkie 3.5L with a more powerfull transmission & T-case.
An 215 hp engine for a 4000 pounds truck is just too weak + all the backward stuff that happens along with
Superman, I may be able to help you out with ONE of your issues. Once you do pry the hood open there are two rubber bump stops, one on each side of the engine bay, at the front of the VX. I believe that they are on the bulkhead in front of the radiator. If you unscrew those stops so that they become taller (for lack of a better description) they should help to hold the hood up a little so that it doesn't become wedged into the hood latch. Also, try squirting a little grease on the hood latch mechanism to help lube it up.
Worth a try.
The VX was the fastest truck sold when it was new except for the Grand Cherokee and I don't think most people have had any problem with their engine or transmission (knock on wood). Of course 18 inch wheels used to be considered unbelievably huge too. How times have changed in the last 10 years and how cars have grown in size and speed and power. Must be that awful GM forcing gas guzzlers on people again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gussie2000
12 month 12000 mile warranties. If the car didnt fall apart driving off the lot it blew up when hit. While the Big 3 always could stuff a huge motor in a huge chunk of metal they never really did design a decent looking fine lined automobile. Although the older vettes were pretty hot.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrtew
Even though the VX was one of the fastest (so they said) on the road back in 1999 isuzu fail to follow the path almost all manufactures did when the designed a prototype or a concept vehicule which is adding a nice & unique engine at least to impress the media & fans.
The vehicross deserved to run on no less than 290 Hp engine (3,8 or 4.0L) as how the 1rst generation of acura MDX does.
When i say that isuzu f...... us all,especially those who paid $30,000 + back 1999 for a vehicule ranging the price of a luxury vehicule i meant isuzu built this unique vehicule on a cheap manufacturing process & dropped a engine that barely move all that mass of 4000lbs of iron & plus with all the flaws following that such as windows,noon lubricating cylinders,oil burning,no equipment for rear view as how the JDM has,CD junkie changers,no cup holders,no sunroof, etc.
I still love the VX,but when i think about it just makes me feel so mad :mad:
as much as you claim you will realize there is a huge difference between designing and building a small production run specialty vehicle and a mass market looks likes every other car on the road and shares the parts of every vehicle in the line. The VX is too unique to produce in mass numbers. Even at the small run they had it did not sell well. Therefore all production costs and new parts are shared by the few people who purchased them. A larger engine would have changed weight distribution, Increase torque would require larger and stronger drive train parts. All while adding more weight to the vehicle. I bought my VX new as well. I negotiated what I paid, i took care of my VX and while I have had a few issues windows, rear wheel cylinder leak and a TOD connection needing replace I feel after 7-8 years it has been like a rock and very dependable. BTW I have had my VX over 100mph which is as fast as I want to do. As it is designed as a combo Sports SUV you cant expect Porsche Carrera sports car performance and Toyota Highlander 4 wheel performance with Honda Civic reliability all in one car. To this day I would not trade my VX even up with any of the cars on the road today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gussie2000
I'm well aware of all the above,but it doesn't exempt isuzu from being "lazy" trying to do better on the development of the VX performance.Quote:
Originally Posted by circmand
No body debates the reliability of the VX,as all isuzu's on the road right now it's well built,however isuzu was able to 'add' more to the VX for the amount of money the VX was priced in 1999.
If in order for isuzu to add more to the VX was requiring to add heavier drivetrain parts,better & stronger engine & all the stuff you mentioned i'll be up for that,that's why the grand cherokee was faster yet still heavier then the VX.
I wish i can able to swap this 3.5L for a MDX engine which if fact shares a lot common things.
For $ 30,000 the customer deserved more & that's why the VX wasn't sold well good to the point dealers had to come down with deals to get them outter their lots,that was a shame having in consideration that the VX is a unique vehicule.
2 hard and fast rules;
1. Never buy the first year model of a vehicle
2. Never pay sticker price