Nice pics Grif! Are you lifted? Those rims and tires really fill up the wheel wells. :thumbup:
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Nice pics Grif! Are you lifted? Those rims and tires really fill up the wheel wells. :thumbup:
Thx Mav. Three inch OME lift. And yeah they fill up quite a bit, in fact I'm gonna need a bit of cladding trim and a BFH. Kind of odd that the Yokohama Geolander M/T of the same size didn't require any, but then again these tires actually have tread on them. heheQuote:
Originally Posted by vt_maverick
Had some time to run around on the treadwrights. I would not DD these tires, the rubber seems oftly soft, and damn do they howl on the pavement!! But as trail tires, I will find out how they do aired down next weekend and post up results. Bottom line, I would not use these as a replacement for a quality AT or HT, but for a mudder trail tire, I doubt you can beat the price.
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/IMGP1611.JPG
Compared to my prior tires these are rock hard and whisper quiet. The Yokohama Geolander M/T's i had just ROARED on the road in comparison.
The ones on my friends Discovery were not bad at all and rock hard.
So for anyone who has owned both tires, which is best? The Treadwright Guard Dogs or the Dakota M/T's?
I would say it depends on your goals. The treadwrights have a short mileage life expectancy, but are cheap. Mine are the Backbone tread pattern, basically the same as the BFG MT.
and off road capabilities? If they are pretty close then I will probably opt for the longer life over the price difference.
Since most of their tread patterns on name brand clones, they should perform similarly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Barker
I bought my set for trail tires, so if I tear one up, no worries. I run Dakota ATs for the street tires.
On the VX, I run the Kevlars all the time...:)
This is the BFG M/T:
http://www.hummerproducts.com/BFG-MT-KM-Web.jpg
This is the Treadwright Guard Dog:
http://www.treadwright.com/Portals/0.../medium/74.jpg
This is the Treadwright Backbone:
http://www.treadwright.com/portals/0...dium/54_1_.jpg
The Backbone has larger spaces between the lugs compared to the other two and less aggressive sides. Both of the treadwrights seem to me to be based on the BFG M/T, but the Guard Dogs have a tighter lug pattern and look to be deeper as well.
Perhaps the Backbone does have softer rubber, i do not know. I do know that the Backbones are only offered in load range D, where the Guard Dogs are offered in both D and E ranges.
Ok a quick image search indicates the Guard Dogs are based on the original Goodyear Wrangler MT/R more closely than the BFG M/T.
Again, Treadwright Guard Dog:
http://www.treadwright.com/Portals/0.../medium/74.jpg
And here is the original GY Wrangler MT/R :
http://www.wilhelm-tech.com/jeep/ima...angler_mtr.jpg
Nice work. The treadwright site says the Backbones were designed specifically for offroad application, no mention about them being street friendly as well:) That would be another problem with retreads, they are basically one offs (well, 4 ofs) each time your order them. So a particular batch of compound maybe a bit different than another. I will post up some feedback after the Uwharrie trip. We will air em down to 15lbs for 3 days of wheeling, which in the VX is close to 1.5 tanks of usually. That should be enough mileage to get a feeling of how they are going to break in.
This makes more sense...guard dog to backbone. My friend has the Guards on them, and they are rock solid tread. With the gap in the backbone lugs I bet it would be louder.
There multiple people saying they get 50-60K out of the Guards.
Grif what size did you end up getting?
We just re mounted my friend's TreadWright GuardDogs today and it really makes me want them. His were 245/75-16.
Once again to reconfirm, very tough rubber on his and NOT loud.
Mine are 285/75/16 Guard Dogs.Quote:
Originally Posted by JHarris1385
Yes they are very, very tough tires. Tread is deep. They whine some at speed but not what I would call loud. They are HEAVY tho. That much high density rubber would have to be.
I like them and for the price they cant be beat. They seem to sit "taller" than my Yokohama Geolander M/T tires did and seem to have much stiffer/straighter sidewalls. As a result I've lost a bit of the perceived offset compared to the Yokos. Thinking about adding wheel spacers to get some of that back, not sure yet.
If your looking for a tough tire with assertive tread at a great price, they are hard to ignore.