scared meself!!!

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As I said, surely you can understand how a person might see that as you going out of your way to disagree just because of who you're disagreeing with?

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Trek, it is really odd to me that YOU are consistently proud to point out the fact that there are many people here who are very glad to disagree with you, yet you always think that this has nothing to do with you. I would suggest possibly asking yourself what it is about your interactions with others that makes them enjoy not agreeing with you. It could very well be that the problem lies within yourself and the way in which you conduct yourself here. None of us are perfect, but realizing that many people in a group may enjoy not agreeing with you might just tell you something about yourself.

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Originally Posted by Y33TREKker

So...no white flag truce then after all?

Yup. This is my last post on the subject.:whiteflag:

And do you realize you've done it again? You seemed to have understood in your other thread that it was the pressure that caused various engine gaskets to be blown out in the early days and was one of the main reasons PCV systems were invented in the first place, yet you're apparently changing your tune again to now try to make it about volume?

Nah, PV=nRT so pressure & volume are inter-related on a closed (& semi-closed system). One can not be addressed without the other. Volumetric increase without an escape leads to pressure buildup ... hence the basis for the entire discussion. So far the only thing that I've stated that I was wrong about and reversed direction on was the source of the pressure/volume. It doesn't come from the valves. My apologies to the automotive and engineering communities for a rushed assessment that wasn't thought out.

As I said, surely you can understand how a person might see that as you going out of your way to disagree just because of who you're disagreeing with? Notice how I've phrased that as a question since at times you've seemed to have understood things only to turn around and say something to cause a person to question whether that was ever really the case...

Sorry but that just doesn't sound like me at all. I may be a headstrong/knowitall ... but disagreeable fits me about as well as a leather glove on OJ.

Did I ever say it wasn't logical to get rid of a valve that seems to have proven itself inadequate in this particular application? I've replaced mine with a breather filter too after all. But you continuing to change your reasoning whenever it seems to suit you doesn't mean what I've already said hasn't already also addressed the new reasons you've come up with, because as far as your volumetric flow capacity theory goes, if you're engine has gotten to the point that the diameters of the orifices in the stock PCV valve/system are no longer sufficient to bleed off the pressures the engine is creating, it would seem you'd then have a hell of a lot more engine problems that needed addressed than simply modifying your PCV system anyway...don't you think?

Nope ... I don't think that at all ... & neither do you since you replaced your PCV with a breather.

As far as having figured the odds of what you're attempting as being 50/50, I'd sure be curious to know how you came up with those figures before you automatically assume they're accurate and start applying them to whatever results you end up getting.

50/50 is just a saying to indicate that I have as much probability of being right as I do of being wrong. Since we are talking about a technical area that I have limited experience & knowlege (obviously by the errors I've made), there is no statistical sampling to assign accurate metrics for prognostication.

And seriously, we know you've joked around on occasion about thinking you're never wrong about anything (who hasn't right?), but did you seriously just try to align your automotive experiment as being along the same lines as the nation-building experiment of our forefathers...?!?

Actually I was aligning myself more to the Wright brothers, Thomas Edison, Henry Ford. But thanks, I'll take Washington, Jefferson, Franklin & Adams. It's interesting that they were the first ones you thought of as my forefathers. I had no idea that you held me in such high regard. Based on your posts, I'd have thought you'd consider me closer to Homer Simpson.

I'm all for self-confidence don't get me wrong, but gee...high opinion of yourself much? :p

I'm a helluva guy ... no doubt about it.:)

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People who think they know everything are incredibly irritating to those of us who actually do!!!

I gots an idea!! We'll get y'all some PVC (pipe) and you can beat each other about the head and shoulders to see who is correct.:bgwb::p

Can't get mad at me either, I put smileys in too.

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Originally Posted by Jay Dunford

I gots an idea!! We'll get y'all some PVC (pipe) and you can beat each other about the head and shoulders to see who is correct.:bgwb::p

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Now yer just screwin with me. I finally got PCV down pat & now yer throwin an acronym like PVC at me. For shame!!!:)

Polyvinyl Chloride, Premature Ventricular Contraction, Packed Cell Volume, Positive Crankcase Ventilation...Easy to see how us geniuses could screw them up. Take two aspirins and call me in the morning Tom, although I fear it may take more then that to make our headache go away! :rotate:

ROFL. Yer killin me here Scott.

My mind went totally out to left field with "Premature Ventricular Contraction".

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LOL, I did this once too. Pulled into my garage with smoke billowing out from under the hood. Man did I feel stupid,and yes, total mess.

Bart

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Glad to find meself in such good company.:)

Now we can share one of these:

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Guess I'll chime in; I've totally done this too. Checked the oil during a fuel stop, topped it off and the closed the hood and took off. A little way down the road smoke, and a nasty smell, started billowing out from under the hood. My heart totally sank and I got a very sick feeling in my stomach (and I needed to change my shorts) because I thought that the engine was toast. Pulled over into a parking lot, popped the hood and saw oil EVERYWHERE in the engine compartment. After a slight panic I realized that the oil cap was off, and luckily still sitting where I had left it (hood must have kept it in place). Topped the oil off again, replaced the cap, and went on my way.

I don't think the engine compartment was completely cleaned until the engine was replaced (not due to oil loss).

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Originally Posted by Scott Larson

"Escape","overlooked", tomatoes, tomaaaatoes, the one thing that is never overlooked is the fact that you Trekkie are a dickhead...:p ;) (Can't get mad, I added the winkie emoticon!)

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So apparently Scott...in your "escapist" view...even after it's Tom who has illustrated, acknowledged, and admitted that his reasoning was flawed...and even after it's been Tom who has remained defensive about his reasoning being flawed...it's still me who is somehow the dickhead for suggesting that his reasoning was flawed and simply trying to save him some time in the process?

That seems to about sum up your reasoning for calling me a dickhead anyway.

What you constantly and conveniently "overlook" about yourself Scott is how you SO OFTEN involve yourself in discussions that don't even concern you, just because I happen to be one of the people commenting...and end up making comments like the one you just did.

Dickhead indeed. ;)

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Originally Posted by LittleBeast

Trek, it is really odd to me that YOU are consistently proud to point out the fact that there are many people here who are very glad to disagree with you, yet you always think that this has nothing to do with you. I would suggest possibly asking yourself what it is about your interactions with others that makes them enjoy not agreeing with you. It could very well be that the problem lies within yourself and the way in which you conduct yourself here. None of us are perfect, but realizing that many people in a group may enjoy not agreeing with you might just tell you something about yourself.

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When did I say I was "proud" of that happening? Your word, not mine. What I think is that the responses I occasionally get here are unwarranted, based usually in ignorance, and indicative of how a group can evolve into a mob mentality.

You said it yourself that in those interactions, those "others" you referred to "enjoy" and are "very glad" disagreeing with me, but you never referred to whether those individuals were always correct about what they'd been disagreeing about...just like the illustration Tom has provided in this thread.

I would suggest possibly asking yourself what your usual reaction is when a discussion is taking place where someone else admits that they were wrong about something, but then you're still expected to remain silent as you're then called a dickhead for going out of your way to help clear up someone elses' confusion to try to save them some unnecessary effort. It is really odd to me that you are currently ignoring THAT fact.

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Originally Posted by tom4bren

Nah, PV=nRT so pressure & volume are inter-related on a closed (& semi-closed system). One can not be addressed without the other. Volumetric increase without an escape leads to pressure buildup ... hence the basis for the entire discussion. So far the only thing that I've stated that I was wrong about and reversed direction on was the source of the pressure/volume. It doesn't come from the valves. My apologies to the automotive and engineering communities for a rushed assessment that wasn't thought out.

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And now you're changing your story again. You started out basing your theory on a "closed" system, similar to an exhaust system. Remember? All I can say is you have a very convenient way of trying to prove yourself "right" all the time.

As I said, surely you can understand how a person might see that as you going out of your way to disagree just because of who you're disagreeing with? Notice how I've phrased that as a question since at times you've seemed to have understood things only to turn around and say something to cause a person to question whether that was ever really the case...

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Originally Posted by tom4bren

Sorry but that just doesn't sound like me at all. I may be a headstrong/knowitall ... but disagreeable fits me about as well as a leather glove on OJ.

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OK, so YOU can't see it. Doesn't mean others can't though. (And by the way, just being "disagreeable" wasn't what I was talking about anyway).

Did I ever say it wasn't logical to get rid of a valve that seems to have proven itself inadequate in this particular application? I've replaced mine with a breather filter too after all. But you continuing to change your reasoning whenever it seems to suit you doesn't mean what I've already said hasn't already also addressed the new reasons you've come up with, because as far as your volumetric flow capacity theory goes, if you're engine has gotten to the point that the diameters of the orifices in the stock PCV valve/system are no longer sufficient to bleed off the pressures the engine is creating, it would seem you'd then have a hell of a lot more engine problems that needed addressed than simply modifying your PCV system anyway...don't you think?

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Originally Posted by tom4bren

Nope ... I don't think that at all ... & neither do you since you replaced your PCV with a breather.

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You've not only misunderstood why I opted for a breather filter, but you've just contradicted yourself once more in this thread.

As far as having figured the odds of what you're attempting as being 50/50, I'd sure be curious to know how you came up with those figures before you automatically assume they're accurate and start applying them to whatever results you end up getting.

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Originally Posted by tom4bren

50/50 is just a saying to indicate that I have as much probability of being right as I do of being wrong. Since we are talking about a technical area that I have limited experience & knowlege (obviously by the errors I've made), there is no statistical sampling to assign accurate metrics for prognostication.

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Except for the fact that the theory you've been basing your project on was flawed from the beginning.

And seriously, we know you've joked around on occasion about thinking you're never wrong about anything (who hasn't right?), but did you seriously just try to align your automotive experiment as being along the same lines as the nation-building experiment of our forefathers...?!?

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Originally Posted by tom4bren

Actually I was aligning myself more to the Wright brothers, Thomas Edison, Henry Ford. But thanks, I'll take Washington, Jefferson, Franklin & Adams. It's interesting that they were the first ones you thought of as my forefathers. I had no idea that you held me in such high regard. Based on your posts, I'd have thought you'd consider me closer to Homer Simpson.

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Your words, not mine, which seems to be about par for the course around here since it's usually been others here who have thrown around those kinds of juvenile insults and derogatory comments rather than me.

I'm all for self-confidence don't get me wrong, but gee...high opinion of yourself much?

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I'm a helluva guy ... no doubt about it. People who think they know everything are incredibly irritating to those of us who actually do!!!

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And there you have it. ;)

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Originally Posted by Jay Dunford

I gots an idea!! We'll get y'all some PVC (pipe) and you can beat each other about the head and shoulders to see who is correct.:bgwb::p
Can't get mad at me either, I put smileys in too.

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Take two aspirins and call me in the morning Tom, although I fear it may take more then that to make our headache go away! :rotate:

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Just two more examples for all those who would continue to imply that it's my attitude that creates an unfriendly atmosphere.

I've already put up the white flag so I'll conclude with:

I have no response to that.

You win the yellow shoelace contest.:)

Awe...Pissing match over?? Shucks, and it's been sooo much fun...I'll miss the little feller! :waab:

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Just two more examples for all those who would continue to imply that it's my attitude that creates an unfriendly atmosphere.

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It is your attitude that creates an unfriendly atmosphere, most people here can see it, it is obvious that you will never admit it thought. Here is some free advice: stop spending so much time and effort on proving yourself right in a thread that had nothing to do with you in the first place.

There is a reason you are the most blocked/ignored person on this site. Your history of beating a dead horse just so you can feel like you are "right" or "justified" or "have the last word" is laughable. Get over yourself and all your quoting other people to prove them wrong.

Is there a way to block comments from a specific poster!?!

Yup...

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Is there a way to block comments from a specific poster!?!

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Just click on my name :eek:..or anyone you want to ignore... :cool:

...then on the menu that pops up click "Public Profile"

Under posters name on profile is a blue "band"...in the middle is ADD POSTER TO YOUR IGNORE LIST


Click that...and "Abracadabra"..they are gone :thumbup:

Jo

But keep in mind that if someone quotes them in a post it will show up IIRC...:bwgy::bgwb::bgwo::smilewink

Ooohhh nooooooo...and just when you thought it was safe to go back on the forum! The theme song from Jaws plays in the background...:freek: :disturbed

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Glad to find meself in such good company.:)

Now we can share one of these:

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Guess I'll chime in; I've totally done this too.

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:):)Mebbe we should start a poll:):)

It appears that according to the logical progression of this thread - if you ever forget to put your oil cap back on ... you are indeed a washington-franklin-adams-jeffersonian.

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Awe...Pissing match over?? Shucks, and it's been sooo much fun...I'll miss the little feller! :waab:

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As I said, juvenile.

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Originally Posted by LittleBeast

It is your attitude that creates an unfriendly atmosphere, most people here can see it, it is obvious that you will never admit it thought. Here is some free advice: stop spending so much time and effort on proving yourself right in a thread that had nothing to do with you in the first place.

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Yes, nothing to do with ME. But I've already said that myself. All I was initially doing was trying to help Tom see how his initially voiced understanding of a PCV system would make his project unnecessary. This thread only became about me when Tom started trying to make it about me to change the subject from him trying to prove himself right when he wasn't. He even admitted that himself.

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Originally Posted by LittleBeast

There is a reason you are the most blocked/ignored person on this site. Your history of beating a dead horse just so you can feel like you are "right" or "justified" or "have the last word" is laughable. Get over yourself and all your quoting other people to prove them wrong.

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Do you really not see the irony of how often you've quoted me to try to prove me wrong though?

All I'll say is that at least I'm apparently blocked/ignored because of the misunderstandings and hypocrisy of others. That's how the "attitude" against me all got started on this message board in the first place after all, but since you were a part of that incident/thread too, it's obvious that you will never admit to that...even though there are many members here who have told me they saw that about you during that initial incident.

For you to again ignore facts like those and imply that I'm the person with the attitude is what is laughable. You should try getting over yourself and stop trying to prove yourself right all the time where it concerns me, especially since all I've tried to do on multiple occasions is try to help some of you see how it's your attitudes that have sometimes created an unfriendly atmosphere on this website...as you're once again doing....which seems to be part of a history you never plan to admit to.

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Originally Posted by tom4bren

I've already put up the white flag so I'll conclude with:

I have no response to that.

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We've obviously heard that before though, and yet here we are again.

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It appears that according to the logical progression of this thread - if you ever forget to put your oil cap back on ... you are indeed a washington-franklin-adams-jeffersonian.

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You wish. ;)

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But keep in mind that if someone quotes them in a post it will show up IIRC...:bwgy::bgwb::bgwo::smilewink

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Ooohhh nooooooo...and just when you thought it was safe to go back on the forum! The theme song from Jaws plays in the background...:freek: :disturbed

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Gee, that sure makes it appear as if some want to have things both ways. :bwgy::bgwb::bgwo::smilewink

Wow, a five-post diatribe this time! It's quite obvious that you've moved on "TREKKIE"...:badhorse: Oops, almost forgot...;) :p 'cuz they're just so darn precious!

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This thread only became about me when Tom started trying to make it about me to change the subject from him trying to prove himself right when he wasn't.

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AFAIK the only thing I posted that was an attack on your person was calling you ... that bad name you don't like. That was an accident borne of ignorance & I apologized for it.

All I ever did was to continue the conversation on a technical basis to see if there was any more to learn from your responses ... despite the effort of weeding through your false accusations of contradiction.

I have no interest in getting into a battle of wits with you. Please don't go back through the thread and quote me out of context to attempt to prove your point.

Yes, I know I've waived the white flag twice now so please try to honor that by just letting it go (a flag of truce is bi-directional after all). Any further unfounded attacks on my character will be wasted effort on your part since I won't be reading this thread anymore.

Tom, you should know by now that you cannot have a battle of wits with an unarmed person! ;) :p...Oh hell, now I just can't help myself, they're both just sooo damn precious!

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We've obviously heard that before though, and yet here we are again.

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twist...spin..."I know you are, what am I"...all the classic hallmarks of a trekeeto thread...SWEET!!!...:dance:

OMFG...this thread has been the best entertainment EVER...and all this time, I thought it was just me...:mbrasd:

Carry on...I can always use another laff or two...:argue:...:slap:...:bla:...:_iamwiths... :waag:...:_confused...:laughing:...:laughing:... :laughing:

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...ys/Popcorn.gif...http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/f...on_popcorn.gif...http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/f...ys/Popcorn.gif

Glad to oblige you brother dub...:_beer:

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Dickhead indeed...:yesgray:

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And there you have it.

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Just two more examples for all those who would continue to imply that it's my attitude that creates an unfriendly atmosphere.

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Originally Posted by Y33TREKker

As I said, juvenile.

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You wish.

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I mean...just freak'n WOW...:_thinking.:laughing:

Does kinda sum up the whole mental-tality doesn't it? :rotate:

Hi trekker...Whore jockey here.... !


There's been more than a few times that I've been told....STFU Jo..!
..
...and rightly so :thumbup:

And I think I've figured out that when some of the people you are 'discussing' stuff with...
.... tell you yer WAY out of line..
...its usually a good idea to sit back and take a good look at YOUR position.
.
Perhaps...maybe...its YOU..............maybe youre the one that is out of line.

Not necessarily ...but certainly a good time to sit back and take stock.

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BUT..when most/ and ( very tellingly) some new to commenting ( not the usual suspects!) of the community...
.... tell you the very same thing....


......it might just be time to get a clue.

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The inter-web is very impersonal ...and that can be a problem.
Intonation, expression, and tone is lost..unless you know the poster personally.

(Most posting on this thread DO know each other personally...but you dont.)

I've said that about the web before, and allowed for that with you before.
.

But.... when the consensus of opinion is telling you, you are wrong...

..... it might behoove you to consider it , and think about it.


I know I have in the past.....

.....hope my experience/bit of insight... is of help to you.

Jo

Rather than reply to all of you individually...who I might add are once again illustrating that mob mentality I mentioned earlier...I'll just use Toms' responses to once again illustrate how it's some of you usual suspects who are ONCE AGAIN conveniently directing your "attitude" against the wrong person.

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Originally Posted by tom4bren

AFAIK the only thing I posted that was an attack on your person was calling you ... that bad name you don't like. That was an accident borne of ignorance & I apologized for it.

All I ever did was to continue the conversation on a technical basis to see if there was any more to learn from your responses ... despite the effort of weeding through your false accusations of contradiction.

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An accident borne of ignorance with nothing else to it huh? Well I'll simply have to take that as your word Tom.

"AFAIK" was at least a good start anyway. You lost it again after that though. As Far As You Knew, you weren't contradicting yourself with what you were saying about the PCV system, even though it was obvious to others that you were. Or do you not remember that Scott corrected you too? But even then, you STILL persisted in your contradictions, and in the process, with your personal jabs against me (and me alone I might ALSO add)...even though you just said that "all you did was continue the conversation on a technical basis". Guess we'll just add that one to the list of contradictions you've apparently never exhibited as far as you know.

Something you've without a doubt illustrated though is a habit of apologizing while simultaneously insulting. Is that really how you think a truce is achieved?

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Originally Posted by tom4bren

I have no interest in getting into a battle of wits with you. Please don't go back through the thread and quote me out of context to attempt to prove your point.

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Out of context? You mean in the same way you've done with some of my comments in this thread? I've said it before, it's called projection. Look it up.

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Originally Posted by tom4bren

Yes, I know I've waived the white flag twice now so please try to honor that by just letting it go (a flag of truce is bi-directional after all). Any further unfounded attacks on my character will be wasted effort on your part since I won't be reading this thread anymore.

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Now the picture has become even more clear. Apparently, if you're involved, it's only an "honorable" truce in your view if you have the last word...which also always happens to include one last unfounded parting shot against MY character.

I must say that's a very convenient sense of honor you've concocted for yourself Tom.

It seems the solution is clear at this point though. Since Tom doesn't plan to listen to anything more I have to say in this thread, and since there are so many of you siding with him, it's obvious that all of you who are now ALSO taking unfounded personal shots at my character should all simply redirect your efforts towards providing input for Tom's crossover tube project.

He obviously thinks he's on to something with his theory, and since so many of you have apparently been agreeing with it since hardly any of you have even mentioned it in any of your posts, you obviously agree with it so that would obviously be a more productive avenue for your efforts.

After all, I've said all along I've only been trying to help Tom regarding his project, and surely that's all that the rest of you could say regarding YOUR comments in this thread too. Surely none of you would have reason to disagree with me about that...would you?

I guess I cant fathom why....

...that given you keep finding yourself embroiled in similar fracas on this site,
that you dont sit back and take a good look at why the consensus of opinion....
(mob mentality as you so colorfully put it!)

.... is telling you, that youre the one that is out of line.


:_thinking


Jo

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Originally Posted by Y33TREKker

Rather than reply to all of you individually...who I might add are once again illustrating that mob mentality I mentioned earlier...I'll just use Toms' responses to once again illustrate how it's some of you usual suspects who are ONCE AGAIN conveniently directing your "attitude" against the wrong person.


An accident borne of ignorance with nothing else to it huh? Well I'll simply have to take that as your word Tom.

"AFAIK" was at least a good start anyway. You lost it again after that though. As Far As You Knew, you weren't contradicting yourself with what you were saying about the PCV system, even though it was obvious to others that you were. Or do you not remember that Scott corrected you too? But even then, you STILL persisted in your contradictions, and in the process, with your personal jabs against me (and me alone I might ALSO add)...even though you just said that "all you did was continue the conversation on a technical basis". Guess we'll just add that one to the list of contradictions you've apparently never exhibited as far as you know.

Something you've without a doubt illustrated though is a habit of apologizing while simultaneously insulting. Is that really how you think a truce is achieved?


Out of context? You mean in the same way you've done with some of my comments in this thread? I've said it before, it's called projection. Look it up.


Now the picture has become even more clear. Apparently, if you're involved, it's only an "honorable" truce in your view if you have the last word...which also always happens to include one last unfounded parting shot against MY character.

I must say that's a very convenient sense of honor you've concocted for yourself Tom.

It seems the solution is clear at this point though. Since Tom doesn't plan to listen to anything more I have to say in this thread, and since there are so many of you siding with him, it's obvious that all of you who are now ALSO taking unfounded personal shots at my character should all simply redirect your efforts towards providing input for Tom's crossover tube project.

He obviously thinks he's on to something with his theory, and since so many of you have apparently been agreeing with it since hardly any of you have even mentioned it in any of your posts, you obviously agree with it so that would obviously be a more productive avenue for your efforts.

After all, I've said all along I've only been trying to help Tom regarding his project, and surely that's all that the rest of you could say regarding YOUR comments in this thread too. Surely none of you would have reason to disagree with me about that...would you?

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all that is simply your opinion...enjoy...:laughing:

WOW! excellent thread...almost missed it.I didn't know leaving your oil cap off was so emotional:bgwb: I'll have to try it.(actually did once,but didn't drive to far,so no mess)

Just another observation, but I couldn't help notice the irony about those comments suggesting I'm the person who needs to pause to reflect on my attitude, because they're all coming from the VERY SAME people who were exhibiting the EXACT SAME attitude in the thread from SO LONG AGO where all this animosity actually started......making it obvious that none of you blaming me have ever apparently even considered, let alone taken any time to pause and reflect...on the possibility that it might be YOUR attitudes that create an unfriendly atmosphere here.

Seems a PCV (Particularly Conveniently View) that some of you to have adopted. ;)

Just because a lot of individuals will join in on what a mob is doing doesn't make what it's doing a good thing.

Trekker, do you actually READ whats written????

In Part I wrote:-

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Hi trekker...Whore jockey here.... !


There's been more than a few times that I've been told....STFU Jo..!
..
...and rightly so :thumbup:

And I think I've figured out that when some of the people you are 'discussing' stuff with...
.... tell you yer WAY out of line..
...its usually a good idea to sit back and take a good look at YOUR position.
.
Perhaps...maybe...its YOU..............maybe youre the one that is out of line.

Not necessarily ...but certainly a good time to sit back and take stock.

But.... when the consensus of opinion is telling you, you are wrong...

..... it might behoove you to consider it , and think about it.


I know I have in the past.....

.....hope my experience/bit of insight... is of help to you.

Jo

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.making it obvious that none of you blaming me have ever apparently even considered, let alone taken any time to pause and reflect...on the possibility that it might be YOUR attitudes that create an unfriendly atmosphere here.

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GOOG GRIEF!!!!!.... could I acknowledge more clearly that I have done so???


This wholly inaccurate summation of yours is just another perfect example of your complete and utter myopia ....


Get a grip Dude :_brickwal


jo

TREKker,

Perhaps I am now part of the mob, but I think not.

I have yet to comment on any of this interesting debate, so I am not one of people you mention

If I agree with the majority that you are the one who needs to pause and reflect on their attitude, it might simply be because they and I are correct, not just simply a mob.