So looks like the Trooper exhaust matched up to the muffler without modification then?
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So looks like the Trooper exhaust matched up to the muffler without modification then?
Whats the difference in the Trooper exhaust vs VX exhaust that involves the PCM? O2 sensors?Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffy
Yea it matched up nicely. I need to go get a gasket for that juncture. The one I had was too small. I had a couple new gaskets for the manafolds already so I just stuck those in there. An added bonus on project left overs. :smilegray
I has to do with how the computer reads them. If I used the VX head pipes it would have thrown codes. I spoke with Allen (BigMeatVX) and this is what he was telling me.Quote:
Originally Posted by VXorado
Thats good info, I remember Allan had something about the trooper exhaust in his write up but it was unclear what the issue was. Glad you got in touch with him :thumbup:.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffy
This is a good thread to read. Nice to have this option in the back of my head if the transmission ever goes out.
Ya, now if someone would just do it for me. My garage isn't large enough to turn wrenches well in and none of my trusted shops wants to tackle it. Most citing it isn't high on their "want to to list" or "it's going to take to much of their time due to R&D". I respect both excuses. :(
Over all it hasn't been that difficult. Some parts are time consuming like mating the cases together. I figure I will have spent around 40 +- hours doing the swap. A possible compromise would be to just have a shop pull out the auto and install the manual. From there it is fairly straight forward. Shouldn't be any R&D required once I finish the documentation. No fabrication or welding needed, I did have to drill 1 hole in a dust cover but that is it. I was concerned the Trooper shifter would be too tall but as it turns out fits perfect.
I will document the wiring needed to finish off the build here soon. Been under the weather the past couple days. :(
Sorry to hear that Greg, hope you feel better!
I've been sitting on my AR5 and respective flywheel for about a year. Now that some other things in my life are starting to settle a bit, I'm going to get this tackled in the early part of this year. This thread is a boon, so thanks!
IIRC, BigMeat said something about still needing to figure out the cruise control. I hope that will be addressed in this thread, as well.
Keep up the bodacious work!
Good luck with your Vx trans swap you might want to look into a trooper with the manual trans has everything your looking for even a on/off button for the TOD system.
That's where the transmissions came from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cris
I see you are in Austin. I am planning on being in Austin for a visit sometime in February or March. I lived in the Austin area for about 12 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal21
I think I have the cruise portion figured out. We will see if my idea works when I get feeling better.
You lose TOD with the Manual Trooper as its only a 2wd-4hi-4lo. Also you get a 2-1 low gear (:thumbdn:) on the transfer case with the Trooper. Keeping the VX transfer case with this swap is key.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cris
Cool. Let me know! If you're interested, we can grab a beer or dinner while I pick your brain *lol*Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffy
I can't wait to axe my TOD and get a real transfer case!Quote:
Originally Posted by VXorado
But you are partially wrong...Troopers were available with TOD.
If I recall correctly, Troopers with autos have TOD & Troopers with manuals get a non-TOD transfer case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Triathlete
I think this is correct...it was in 99 anyway when I bought my first Trooper. I still have the brochure somewhere...Quote:
Originally Posted by VXorado
Correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by VXorado
I prefer TOD personally but I loves me a manual. Talk about a dilemma....
According to BigMeatVX the TOD still works the same with the 5 speed! I am excited to see how things will work once all the wiring is done.Quote:
Originally Posted by WormGod
I'll be there the week of Feb 27th and again the week of March 12th...Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffy
I stand corrected...my brain for some reason was not seeing auto vs. manual, it was in the gray area :)Quote:
Originally Posted by VXorado
Yup, TOD works just fine, as does 4-lo (and low it is in first gear!) and his TOD on/off switch for some RWD VX fun! :smilewink No idea if he ever got the Cruise working 'cause I never use it anyway and haven't driven the truck in a few months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffy
Sorry about never getting that wiring diagram posted. I found it, but my scanner isn't working for some reason. I can take some pictures of it if you think it might be helpful but it sounds like you are getting it worked out fine on your own.
Plus I'm a little busy with my own project. Finally got my garage cleaned out and started working on pulling my Dragon VX's blown engine and swapping in the 02 Axiom motor. Planning to do a write up on it when I'm done.
Great work. Did you know Isuzu built at least five VX's with manual shift and TOD??? Yes, that's right, rally competition models. You can verify this plus learn a thing or two by consulting the VX parts book. Sections 2-20 and beyond detail the pedals etc. If you don't have access let me know, I'll have my wife scan and post the manual transmission pages. Good luck.
If you have the time that would be great!!!
Just learned something... the same AR-5 manual that we're swapping into my VX was also used on the Pontiac Solstice GXP. That car featured a dual-turbo 2.0 L I4 Ecotec engine that made 260 hp and 260 lb-ft torque while getting 19/28 MPG. The VX is heavier by almost a thousand pounds, but you'd drop a good chunk of that just by going from a V6 to an I4...
So since we know an AR-5 mates to an Ecotec engine is it conceivable that you could swap that engine instead? Discuss... :)
You have boggled my mind with this statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by vt_maverick
Another nice thing about the manual swap is getting a better crawl ratio because the AR5 has a lower first gear than our auto.
Stock VX crawl ratio: 2.86 (1st) x 2.48 (T-case) x 4.30 (axles)= 30.5
Manual VX crawl ratio: 3.75 (1st) x 2.48 (T-case) x 4.30 (axles)=39.9
Sounds like the difference is noticable???Quote:
Originally Posted by Etfren
If you can take a picture of the diagrams it would be great. I can take all the information I can get at this point. If nothing else to make sure I am thinking correctly. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Etfren
I was not aware that Isuzu made 5 manual VXs. Learn something new every day. If you could scan the documentation I would love to read it!Quote:
Originally Posted by blacksambo
Also, did you know that the VX auto tranny was used on '91-'92 3 series BMW's? So there's another engine option.
You guys should be talking to Bruce Garland in OZ. He built several manual shift VX's for competition, like the Australian Safari Rally etc.
No thanks, not trying to make my engine less reliable AND more expensive to fix. :p
Good point. Merely letting the gang know all the options out there.
Yup, its got a super low first gear. I haven't wheeled much in a stock VX, but I can tell you I was going down a really steep hill at about 3-4 MPH just letting it cruise down in 1st. Going uphill it pulls really well too.Quote:
Originally Posted by VXorado
I'll see what I can do today and put them up in my gallery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffy
Just razzin' you a bit sambo - really appreciate the input and look forward to reading the material once you get it scanned. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by blacksambo
Because it's that dumb of an idea? Or because it's unthinkable to go "down" to a four-banger? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by VXorado
Very much so, just wiring the instrument cluster would be the biggest concern. Add'l info: there is also a 2.4 non turbo engine, and it would also appear that the aforementioned 2.0 is the same engine in the Cobalt SS and HHR SS, as per ebay auction 130586906920.Quote:
Originally Posted by vt_maverick
I, for one, in order to increase gas mileage would strongly consider a 2.0L w/a 5MT, especially since there are aftermarket parts to boost the power of the 2.0L.
If this was already posted, please accept my apology. (I read thru the whole thread but don't remember it.)Quote:
Originally Posted by VXorado
What's the ratios of the highest gear? The knowledge base says VX trannies have a .72 OD. Is this M5 going to lower hwy RPMs?
No its a pretty clever question and after thinking about it for a while, I didn't have a good answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by vt_maverick
Heavy VX= bad canidate for a 4 cylinder :(
I4 smaller/lighter than 3.5L= good weight shed for VX :)
I4 turbos= possible annoying turbo lag (maybe not since there's 2) :confused:
I4 more HP= that's all good :)
I4 better MPG= also all good :)
Sky/Solstice short production run= that engine could cost big $$$ :(
Too many pros/cons to make a stance. I think its a great idea as long as the extra 45HP goes to the wheels. Then again the MPG alone may make the swap worth it.
No worries, its not posted... until NOW :bgwo::Quote:
Originally Posted by 89Vette
Aisin AR5 Transmission
1st:3.75
2nd:2.26
3rd:1.37
4th:1.00
5th:0.73
R:3.67
4L30E
1st: 2.86
2nd: 1.62
3rd: 1.00
4th: 0.72
Rev.: 2.00
To answer your question, the OD is about the same but think about all the extra power you'll have going in reverse!