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Originally Posted by RickOKC
oh man, i must be tired.......i was thinking to myself "self, that is a goofie thing to put on a sticker on the center column......wonder if its above, or below the Vehicross logo"
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Originally Posted by RickOKC
oh man, i must be tired.......i was thinking to myself "self, that is a goofie thing to put on a sticker on the center column......wonder if its above, or below the Vehicross logo"
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haha!
UPDATE:
Tested on a small piece of cladding I have (from when dub installed my hitch). I taped over half of it and sprayed exactly as listed. Shaking the bottle continuously. It turned out to be mostly CLEAR, and dried to a satin shine.
Did a 2nd coat next day, same thing, essentially CLEAR. Basically, looks just like Restore/Refinish..:_thinking
Emailed the prez, said I hadn't heard from sales rep yet.
Sales rep called...explained they've switched to a flip top bottle (no spray pump I believe)....shouldn't be "clear"...should definitely have more black/charcoal color. Also said it may have been affected going over the Rockies in the severe cold weather during shipping.
Great, me and maybe the 3 other folks that ordered it, may have gotten a LEMON! He's sending me a replacement bottle. So make sure you test yours first (Can just spray it on a white plastic trash bag to see if it's putting out any significant color).
Stay tuned for the next installment!
And people wonder why we treat new cladding products with such suspicion... :)
***___gotten a "dud?"
I think Rhino-liner is the best answer for our plastic woe's, and if you are as lucky as I am and have a black VX, then it's the best answer for the whole truck!!!
Last night I went CSI on the company(s) behind this product. It's like a labyrinth. Multiple related companies each linking each other as the ultimate source, each quoting the other as having the "latest info about their products". All are dead ends.
What I was really going for was the materials data safety sheet (required by the EPA) which would list more detail of its contents, chemical actions and who actually formulated and submitted it. Not that I think its hazardous or anything, but just curious as to where it came from, its contents and then surmise how it works.
Anyhoo, dead ends so far as that particular product goes. They do seem to have a great line of other products tho... hehe.. Sold under "Technicians Choice", "Elite Car Protection" and "Platinum Professional Car Wash" products.
Yeah I noticed the instructions included the statement: "Refer to MSDS before use"....but they sure didn't give us a MSDS, or make it easy to get one apparently!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grif
This product is called "Technician's Choice Black Fusion", so are you saying this one doesn't show up under that product line where you were looking?
Yes mam, no documentation at all. Tho it is definitely a "Technicians Choice" product.Quote:
Originally Posted by VX KAT
Looks like a "good old bottle of snake oil" to me:p
I'm thinking it has something to do with the dispersal and the color particles not coming out the sprayer. Just take a look at surf-life's cladding, or some of Richard Payne's other VXs for sale. Richard has seen it being used for 6 months with good results. I'll have to reserve judgement until I try the 2nd bottle.....we'll see...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kona-Vs
Don't be too quick to judge. All I did was dig their myriad of sites for product info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kona-Vs
To be fair, they do not post any actual MSDS sheets for any of their other products either, but they do have copious amounts of info for all of their products except "TEC70" which is the product in question.
Like sands through the hour glass... so are the cladding products we try. :)
Staying tuned for round 2... :thumbup:
I just got mine in and it worked just like they said!!!!!
My claddiing is in poor shape but after just one application it looks 100 percent better!!!! It took very little to do it and it was done in just a few minutes!!!! I say it is great stuff and on a VX that was in better shape than mine it would be worth it to use this product.!!!!
Any before and after pics?Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbyfullen
You sound like a saleman for the product.
:mado: I hate you bobbyfullen!! :laugho: j/k...figures, doesn't it, that I'd get the jacked bottle of stuff....:rollo: still waiting on the 2nd bottle...hopefully it didn't get frozen along the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbyfullen
Many products look great right after application. Our concern are long lasting, repel dust not have it stick, no chipping, even coloring etc. Let us see how it looks with pics and then 6 months down the road as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbyfullen
Thats true, Back-to-black looks great for a couple hours before it wears offQuote:
Originally Posted by circmand
I applied the product TC Black Fusion within 40 minutes today and am quite pleased. (so far)
Before:
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...s_pics_071.jpg
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...s_pics_073.jpg
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...s_pics_074.jpg
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...s_pics_075.jpg
After:
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...s_pics_076.jpg
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...s_pics_077.jpg
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...s_pics_078.jpg
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/kitty.jpg
Lookin' good EB!!:thumbup:
Did you get a bottle with a sprayer or a flip top bottle? (They first sent me a spray bottle, then the replacement bottle just has a flip top, have to pour the product onto the cloth sponge.)
How did you apply it? Use that cloth covered sponge they included?
Doesn't look like it made it tremendously "black"...just darker gray...is that what you see?
Doesn't look tremendously shiny...nice sheen, but not glossy/wet looking...is that correct?
Looks like it soaked in (I think that's what it's supposed to do??) so it doesn't look like it's sitting on top of the cladding.
Have any problems with streaking or did applying it create any streaks you had to deal with?
Heck if you got that in 40 mins, and if it holds up for only 6 months, I think it sounds like a success! Add another choice to our cladding treatment list.
May want to post all this under the TC Black Fusion thread to keep it in one place.
Also, may want to add the word "black" to your first post too, so it read "TC Black Fusion" so it can be found when searching.
I received a spray bottle and used a little piece of an old towel. It applies quickly and the end result is a very dark grey. The lower cladding seems to take it up and is darker than the hood insert and the mirrors. It does streak somewhat if you do not strive for nice even final strokes whiles applying it. It took 3/4 of the 2 ounce bottle and I agree that if it only last a few months I will just reapply it. Heck it goes on faster than waxing a car. And thanks Sue (Kat) for turning us on to this product!
Looks Great, can't wait to see how it weathers.
Did you do the hood insert? How did that work?
Yes I did the hood insert but it does not get as dark as the lower cladding. i think the microdimpling in the lower cladding is more pronounced and must serve to gather more of the product thus it turns out darker. The hood insert - in other words - has a much smoother finish. (I think this stuff is just printer ink in some protroleum carrier. They arre immiscible (sp?) until applied and smeared together)
The Coolest car in the parking lot!!!!!
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...s_pics_094.jpg
I just posted this picture on my face book page and an old friend tried to taunt me. I said it is the coolest "Truck" in the parking lot and he said it was not a truck. I posted him one of my favorite vids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uAWo...eature=related[img]http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...s_pics_095.jpg
I was not too impressed with the first photos as they looked splotchy but once seeing the pic in the parking lot I was impressed. If it lasts I will definately get some when I finish what I have.
wondering if additional applications will get us a more solid even color overall
His cladding was really faded; additional coats bring a better darker finish. Faded cladding really requires two coats to look even and smooth. We use it on every VX we have.Quote:
Originally Posted by VXjunky
Thanks For That Info Rich
Hey Ebzy...edit your first post and add the word "Black" to the Fusion so the thread will come up when anybody searches for it by it's actual product name "Black Fusion" or "TC Black Fusion".
How? I cna edit the post but how about the thread title???Quote:
Originally Posted by VX KAT
You are not imagining it. I just went out and looked again closer after a few hours of drying and it is quite streaky. I think a 2nd coat is in order but it looks a million times better than the chalky grey.Quote:
Originally Posted by circmand
I'll fix the title...
Everybody...Shhhhh. the administrator is spyin on us. :winky: Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moncha
Woah Moncha. You the man. I didn't know you could combine threads! Yay.
FWIW, this is exactly what TS-1 looks like after it's applied. Maybe Eb and I can take pictures in a month, two months, etc. to compare how the two products are holding up. Seems like one or the other will end up being the best "topical" treatment.
Eb- Now that it's been a few days, is it a dust magnet at all?
Does it have much shine? Your pics look pretty matte or maybe satin...maybe 1st coat absorbed in, maybe 2nd coat would make it more shiny than it is now. My test panel looked really shiny, almost glossy.:_thinking
I will go take a picture right now and post in a moment. OK here it is. I am VERY pleased with the appearance. It does not suck up dust so far. It went on kind of smudgy streaky but a second coat would fix that. Still it is way better than grey. It is a satin finish not too glossy and not too matt-ee
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DSC04575.JPG
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DSC04574.JPG
There are water spots on it and I plan to power wash in a few hours. we'll see if it gets blasted off. Someone spit on my window- guess they don't like my VX.
KAT you said your "test" panel turned out.....You just need to jump in all the way :dan_ban: Oh I guess you did with a different product.....shame shame. You turned me on to this then you went and used something else. ha ha ha ha.
Someone spit on your window? That's pretty crooked man! What did you do to them?
Actually it was Richard Payne who's detail guy uses it, and we saw it on the one Surf-Life bought. That's how we found about about the product.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebenezr
When I got a dud, that sprayed only clear, out of frustration while awaiting my replacement bottle I started surfin' again, found the dyes. I'm going to test the BF on my test panel and see what it looks like sprayed on top of my stuff. It still sounds like a great product, especially after the 2nd coat.