VX for sale, though has problems...take the chance?

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Originally Posted by VX KAT

On my recent "See America" driving tour, I got coated with some gray stuff in Colorado...I mean coated..... luckily RallyDude and MSHardeman knew exactly what it was and advised me to get it off! They spray the roads ahead of time with this variant of a salt product and you get it all over the undercarriage and everywhere else. too.

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Mag Chloride. The stuff makes a giant mess. The article I linked says it is less corrosive to steel, but then later down says it is corrosive to aluminum and steel. Still, you rarely see vehicles rusted through around here. That might have more to do with the dry climate than the road salt, but I don't know.

BTW, for what it is worth, when I bought my VX the ABS light wasn't on, but it turned on while I was driving it off the lot. If I had known then what I now know, I would have turned it right around and gotten $3k dropped off the price. Still, for what it is worth, mine has been 'broken' ever since, and I haven't really missed it all that much.

An ABS light impacts the price, in my humble opinion, but does not impact the overall quality of the VX. Having the brake light on is a bit more troubling. It COULD just be a problem with the handbrake, but it could also mean that half the brake system is dead. From experience, I can tell you that you don't want to drive around with half your brakes.

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Originally Posted by vt_maverick

See the little button to the right of the Quote button? (It looks like "+.) Click that button beside each post you want to quote and it will turn red to indicate that you're quoting that post. When you reach the last post you want to quote, click the Quote button instead and you'll quote everything at one time. Then it's just a matter of typing your posts between all the quotes.

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I see it now...I wasn't logged in before, and so I never saw the + button. Got it now. Thanks :)

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Originally Posted by VX KAT

Now for something completely insane MeowMix....
Carfax showed my VX spent it's entire "registered" life in Virginia and DC...I bought it out of VA with 64k, all stock. I didn't have it inspected (insanely stupid!), just pics from used car lot. Shipped it to AZ & took it to mechanic....no rust.....go figger :_thinking (insanely LUCKY!)

...but the VX fever had blinded me and I hadn't yet read ALL the details on this site.

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Lol...VX fever eh? Is that medical terminology? ;) And yes...that IS extremely lucky; I'm glad things worked out in your favor. I myself have terrible luck, so I've learned to be fairly cautious of literally everything...best for me to not chance vehicles from the east. I'm patient, I can wait and diligently watch for my perfect proton.

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Originally Posted by mdwyer

BTW, for what it is worth, when I bought my VX the ABS light wasn't on, but it turned on while I was driving it off the lot. If I had known then what I now know, I would have turned it right around and gotten $3k dropped off the price. Still, for what it is worth, mine has been 'broken' ever since, and I haven't really missed it all that much.

An ABS light impacts the price, in my humble opinion, but does not impact the overall quality of the VX. Having the brake light on is a bit more troubling. It COULD just be a problem with the handbrake, but it could also mean that half the brake system is dead. From experience, I can tell you that you don't want to drive around with half your brakes.

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You most certainly should have taken it straight back and at least had them fix it, or significantly lower the price as you said. I'm sorry to hear that that happened, though would you have still bought it had the ABS light been on prior to leaving the car lot? I did test drive that VX...I took it around the neighborhood a bit, and it didn't feel like there was something seriously wrong with the braking system. On the other hand I'm an installer, not a mechanic...I should probably leave that judgment up to a professional. The story about half a braking system sounds exciting...I hope it ended well for you, lol.

Thanks everyone for the info on common areas for rust problems...I'll have to add those to the arsenal of questions I've saved on a word doc for future use in finding my perfect VX. :)

Maybe this one is worth a look MeowMix? It's in salt-free Texas:

http://lubbock.craigslist.org/cto/2171306188.html

http://images.craigslist.org/3kb3mb3...13ff691554.jpg

the texas panhandle actually gets the most snow in texas..

[QUOTE=mdwyer;217587]Mag Chloride.
BTW, for what it is worth, when I bought my VX the ABS light wasn't on, but it turned on while I was driving it off the lot. If I had known then what I now know, I would have turned it right around and gotten $3k dropped off the price. Still, for what it is worth, mine has been 'broken' ever since, and I haven't really missed it all that much.

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They had service clear the codes and it came on again as they never fixed anything

FYI...yellow proton in texas had its timing belt and water pump replaced already...guys names richard....isnt firm on asking price

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Originally Posted by vt_maverick

Maybe this one is worth a look MeowMix? It's in salt-free Texas:

http://lubbock.craigslist.org/cto/2171306188.html

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ooOOoo! Mileage is a bit higher than I wanted, but still...that's definitely worth pestering my father. Again. Even says "will trade" -- maybe he wants an '05 Sunfire with exceptionally low mileage and a little extra cash on top, haha. Probably not though. He has a fire emblem on the back window...I instantly like this guy. And VXJunky, your additional info on the rig is like the cherry on top of my proton sundae. We'll see what the Bank of Dad has to say about this one. ;Dy;

-MeowMix

Here's an update on my VX hunt for anyone who cares to know: Bank of Dad denied loan on the proton in TX...too high of mileage. Though daddy has taken interest in the kaiser that member Ben KVX posted in the vehicles for sale section of the forum...as have I. Apparently anyone "crazy enough to belong to a club for those things" is probably someone who takes care of their vehicle -- and dad likes this idea. Then I told him I signed up to be a member here...apparently "I'm crazy too" now. Not all of us want to belong to corvette and hot rod clubs, he just doesn't get it. ;Dy;

Ben hasn't logged on and written anything further on his post though, nor has he sent me a PM. I need to know asking price, answers to various questions (of which all of you have helped me with -- thank you again), as well as additional pics before I make a decision. I'm trying not to be too overzealous, just in case he decides he doesn't want to sell afterall...since it seems as though he's simply entertaining the idea at the moment. I hope he decides to sell, I'd give her a fabulous home! Rosewood OR and back could definitely be a single day trip too...

-MeowMix

Corvette / Mustang / Mopar / Hot Rod Clubs... ;puke: Chevy/Ford/Dodge produced hundreds of thousands of those cars, and you see them around EVERYWHERE. Perfect clubs for group-think sheep IMHO. :D

1937-1939 hudson terra-plane, pickup club....thats what im talking about...ok studeys of the same year are allowed too....the original el caminos.... http://www.hotrodhotline.com/feature...mar/page4.html .....at over a quarter million, it wont be mine anytime soon

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Originally Posted by vt_maverick

Corvette / Mustang / Mopar / Hot Rod Clubs... ;puke: Chevy/Ford/Dodge produced hundreds of thousands of those cars, and you see them around EVERYWHERE. Perfect clubs for group-think sheep IMHO. :D

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Hey now, be nice; my dad grew up in a different time...perhaps people of his generation think differently than we younger people do? Either way, I'm not going to have any ill thoughts towards hot rod or muscle car clubs -- we all have our likes and dislikes. Many people like older vehicles, and some of us like oddball vehicles. Since I have no qualms with my father's preferences, I would prefer that he didn't have any qualms with mine either, or at least not voice them to me, but I'm probably not going to get my wish there...I myself think everyone, regardless of preference, should get along respectfully; perhaps I'm a bit of a car pacifist? :)

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1937-1939 hudson terra-plane, pickup club....thats what im talking about...ok studeys of the same year are allowed too....the original el caminos.... http://www.hotrodhotline.com/feature...mar/page4.html .....at over a quarter million, it wont be mine anytime soon

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I really am only crazy about the first generation '59-'60 El Caminos, which there were only a little over 22,000 produced. That was back when they were on the same platform as the Impala, and they actually were cool. By now, most first gens have probably been in collisions or rusted away completely, so their numbers I'm sure are lower, lol. FYI, The only reason I bought my baby 1987 El Camino is because that car had been around since I was 3 years old, and I get attached to certain material things -- I didn't want to see her go when my father put her up for sale. It was extremely impractical to own, considering the geographic area I live in and the weather conditions here (which is ultimately why I gave her up)...though I loved my Elco dearly. I could care less about any other 78-87 El Camino though. I only loved THAT ONE. Now that she's gone, I'll never own another. I never really belonged in the 80's muscle car stereotype anyway -- I'm not a dude in a stained wifebeater with a mullet and a beer in hand. Okay, so the beer fits...but wrong gender and hairstyle. ;Dy;

Sunfirekat - Not only as a fellow Washingtonian, but as a displaced 509'er (I'm from Othello - Look it up haha) I hope you find yourself a slice of this awesome piece of work. I've had mine for nearly a year now and I've had a blast (although now I'm running into a few hiccups) - Every time I paroose the forums here I get motivated and excited about the potential there is with this vehicle.

Some naysay us strictly for the fact that the VX is "unconventional", "Wasn't popular" or even "silly" but as a professional amateur backyard engineer I see the challenges the VX introduces as more of a test of my intellectual "badassery" and sheer belief that my pure unadultered stubbornness can fix anything!!!

Welcome to the club....

In a previous post...someone mentioned changing the timing belt & water-pump @ 75k miles.

IIRC my owner's manual indicated 90k? Unless 75K is for severe usage what am I missing? Not saying it is wrong just wondering aloud.

But, I waited until 120k miles to do mine with no ill effects, especially since VX water-pumps seem to like to crap out around 140k miles from what I've read. My belt still looked good @ 120k miles!

I also belong to a Mustang club... I personally think they are good people but you're welcome to your opinion. They don't seem to hate on anybody.

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It sounds to me like they are asking way too much for all the problems. I have a few for sale; you can check us out at Detaildrivenautos.com We have 4 more coming but not preped yet. Thanks, Rich

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Originally Posted by Jolly Roger VX'er

In a previous post...someone mentioned changing the timing belt & water-pump @ 75k miles.

IIRC my owner's manual indicated 90k? Unless 75K is for severe usage what am I missing? Not saying it is wrong just wondering aloud.

But, I waited until 120k miles to do mine with no ill effects, especially since VX water-pumps seem to like to crap out around 140k miles from what I've read. My belt still looked good @ 120k miles!

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My mechanic mentioned the 75K timing belt / water pump service to me as well (I'm at about 67K now) so it must be written down somewhere, either in aftermarket repair manuals or under a "severe usage" table as you suggested. It may very well be the latter; the service tech noted that he was "amazed" that she was still running on the original parts after 11 years, so that may be motivating them to look at the more aggressive schedule.

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Originally Posted by Jolly Roger VX'er

I also belong to a Mustang club... I personally think they are good people but you're welcome to your opinion. They don't seem to hate on anybody.

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Heavy sigh... I'm not trying to pour hater-ade on anybody's hobby, I've known plenty of nice guys and gals who were really into Mustangs, Camaros, Corvettes, etc. I guess I just have a hard time going to one of their meets and seeing a dozen of the (more or less) exact same '65 Mustang one after another. I mean yeah that's what you get at a VX meet as well, but it's different (IMHO) because there's so few of them to begin with. On the other hand I see probably a half dozen Corvettes just on my way to work and back each day.

Nice people... not hating... just not for me.