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Originally Posted by BigMeatVX
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:_thinking...From the first post...:_thinkingQuote:
Originally Posted by BigMeatVX
I meant by swapping in an MUA5 with integral transfercase. The TOD function seems to be the only issue that I see people worried about. If the TOD case does indeed bolt up to the AR5, then I don't see why it couldn't function as normal. I know the MUA5 had an integral case so it could not maintain the TOD since it didn't come with it. But if people just want a manual transmission, it should be fairly straight forward. That's what I was getting at, sorry
:laughing: Guess I wasn't able to grasp all that from the sentence posted earlier...my bad...:mbrasd:Quote:
Originally Posted by RamAirZ
Ya my bad, I thought by "if anything" meant, at least to me, that just a 5spd swap is possible but may not have TOD. But now we know, and knowing is half the battle haha. I'm planning an MUA5 swap at some point. I'd like to have 2wd for around town and to be better on the CV's and what not. Also swap in some lower t-case gears. Then I can get a 4wd high function too.
The TOD is what has me all jazzed up!Quote:
ATTN!!!! 5 SPEED SWAP W/TOD DONE!
I guess we'll soon find out. I'm heading down the local junk yard to pull a 5 speed trans etc. today.
Great. Keep us posted with pics and info.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdm monkey
Ya for sure, your grabbing a 98 + AR5 from a Trooper right?
Bad news... no AR5 :( only a MM5. But I got the clutch pedal and brake pedal, master slave, clutch hard lines etc.
MM5? You mean MUA5? Did you snatch all that stuff from a Rodeo?
I looked at the firewall plate and it said: Transmission: MM5
Yeah I snatched it from a Rodeo.
ok that's just the transmission option code, not the actual transmission. That should be a Borg Warner trans with code MM5, what year was the truck? RNK should be the code for the AR5.
Thats a damn good idea!!!!:bgwb:Quote:
Originally Posted by vt_maverick
Sorry, everyone, my trip/meet got cancled....
Update....For those curious about the swap.
Just returned from Moab...Got a great chance to do some real "testing" of the 5-speed swap out there...
Seems my 1st gear /low range crawl speed is slower and lower than with the auto...defenatly WAY more controll.
Big improvment in engine braking when dropping off steep ledges, and decending steep slopes.
Overall, the manual tranny and clutch held up well on some of Moabs more difficult trails. (wish I could say the same for my CVs)
Gas mileage on the trip down to Moab and back I averaged 19MPG+!!!
Not bad, especially when I was "cruising" at 105MPH much of the way there!!!
And, thats with HEAVY wide-*** 35s installed...
Stock tired VXs would surley see well above 20MPG...:bgwb:
Good to hear! Are you still running stock gears?
Yeah, 4.30 gears still....Limited slips front and rear.....Quote:
Originally Posted by RamAirZ
Lower gears are on the list....:yesy:
Where did you get the front LSD? Out of an Impulse or were you lucky enough to snag a power brute? I'm debating if I want to swap gears or not, with the MUA5, in 5th it will be about the same RPM as stock 4L30E with 255/55-18, both with 4.30's. I've debated going 4.56 or 4.77 but not sure I'll need em' when I do the tera-low's.
Cool story. We aren't ever getting pics are we...
Well FWIW we all saw him wheeling it in Moab...I have pics but you can't tell it's a manual tranny from the outside.
oh good. I was really looking for some kind of confirmation before buying up all the parts. Thanks.
Oh and I DID take a pic of the inside, I will post tonight if I can reduce the size of photo.
I was lucky enough to get behind the wheel in the parking lot. The hole in the trans tunnel hasn't been cleaned up (and may never be) but in theory you should be able to make a manual Rodeo interior fit around the gear shifter. Otherwise, I can confirm it works just like a 5-speed oughta!Quote:
Originally Posted by LiquidVX
You're welcome to email the photo to me. I can reduce it and send it back to you (or post it.)Quote:
Originally Posted by VX crazy
Awesome to hear! I'm planning a 5spd swapp soon myself so nice to see it works. The 97 and down pedals and what not should all work as well I believe.
here is the photo.....not of Alans pants but of his gear shifter
Like that makes it sound any better!:bwgy:Quote:
Originally Posted by VX crazy
yeah, when I die someone is gonna find this picture labeled BigMeat on my puter and see its some guys crotch LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Triathlete
hhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Here; I took a "crotch-less" picture of BigMeat's VX.
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...orld_10_10.JPG
I was totally impressed with what Alan and his VX where capable of. Most of what he did with a clutch I could bearly do with an automatic. Way to go Alan.:thumbup:
Attention to anyone contemplating a manual tranny swap - there is a guy on the planet parting out a manual tranny 99 Trooper.
http://forum.planetisuzoo.com/viewto...=321049#321049
Ever fix the light and cruise control so they could work properly? Maybe I missed it..
Yes... the cruise controll now works as before....And I unplgged the "shift light"
Also, I just recently changed over to the Trooper style 5-speed exhaust system...
It uses a larger single Cat....and the "Y" is now before the Cat....I went 3" dia. From the "Y" back...Magnaflow cat and muffler...
Do you have any pics of the install? I'm contemplating this, and pics are always good :)
Oh, and the shift lever/knob.....is that from a Rodeo or a Trooper?
Well, part 1 down.....picked up the tranny w/92k on it for $100 :)
Trooper:yesy:Quote:
Originally Posted by eternal21
Cool, thanks. You don't recommend a non OEM clutch, but I see that Centerforce makes one for this application....thoughts?
Last time I looked, the centerforce does NOT make a clutch kit fot the trooper 3.5?????:confused:
Mabey double check that?:yeso:
Wanted to link these two threads for anyone considering this swap in the future. I am currently having Buffy swap my transmission and he is attempting to improve upon the look of the install as well as create comprehensive "how-to" documentation with pictures here:
VT Maverick's 5 Speed Swap
Kinda curious....
Will manual transmissions (or autos for that matter) from SBC's or other V8's hook up to the 6VE1 engine?
I'm curious because 6-spd units with a higher overdrive seem appealing. For example, the ZF-6 in my vette has a 0.5 6th gear. That's like going from 4.30's in the rear to 2.15's.
5th is about the same as the OD in the VX (.075). So, while the VX may not have the TQ of a V8 (to pull at .5 OD), you certainly could slow the engine on flat/downhill stretches. Then, back to 5th when headed more uphill.
IOW, isn't there an option for lower-speed OD out there?
(Actually, I was also curious about the trans in my mom's Lincoln LS. It's a V6 with a 5-spd auto. I haven't looked up the gear ratio's, but it's a hoot to listen too. It's the only auto I've driven that sounds as much like a stick. And, it sounds like it's got an extra shift (gear) getting to speed...meaning it might help with launches of a 4k lb vehicle.)
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Originally Posted by 89Vette
There are 2 bolt patterns on the back of a 6VE1, one is for the manual trans and is Isuzu specific, the other is for the 4L30E auto, and it is a GM 60 degree pattern. You could use a 700R4 out of an S10 or other 60 degree style transmissions. Adapting a 6spd to it would be interesting, you would need a custom adapter made as well as clutch/flywheel most likely.