Amen to that. I love my stance. They protrude but it is very tasteful IMHO. One reason I was so determined NOT to lift. Didn't want that extra well space to take away from it.
Printable View
Once again though guys, a 0 offset on a 8" wide rim with 11-11.5" wide tires looks a TON different than a 0 offset 8.5"-9" wide rim with 12.5" wide tires. Especially when you have the Mudd Grapplers that if you take a tape measure to are actually 12.5" wide from outside of tire to inside of tire (I checked yesterday, lol). Basically my +15mm offset rims and 12.5" tires actually stick out FURTHER from the cladding than your 0 offset, just because of the other variables, as I have stated before my personal opinion is anything around 1.5"-2" of tire sticking out from the fender looks awesome, and I would say both you and Wormgod are in that ballpark. And the width of your respected tires is 265(10.5"), and 285(11.25") and add to that Wormgod's rims are a full .5" larger than yours and you can see the difference between you two in the pictures, now imagine a 12.5" tire on top of that, in fact a full 1.25"(.75" on each side) more hanging off the rim than Wormgod's tires and a full 2"(1" on each side) more than your tires and you can see why a 12.5" wide tire on a 8.5" rim with 0 offset would look way different than what you guys are running, and in my opinion get into the "wow something is not quite right there" area. But yeah 0 offset on an 8-8.5" rim with a 11" tire looks just right (as far as offset goes). But when thinking of what offset you need for the look you are going for the width of the tire and rim are huge factors that should be decided on before deciding on offset/backspacing.
Just wanted to post this thread that deals with the center bore issue amongst other things that can go wrong on custom wheels.
http://www.vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?t=5118
It's a matter of "getting it just the way you want it". It not only just a matter of just what will work, but, what will you "like". I ran on the stockers with 285/60s for about a year before my 8.5s. Visually, I hated it. If you are gonna have a lot of rubber in your wells, you may as well make it count. My original plan was to get some larger rims and tires and lift. I even got the rear springs. However, after the wheel and tire mount, I was sold without the lift. Hell, I have had that pair of springs in my garage for about 4-5 years now, heh.
As for going wider than 11" or so on an 8.5', that is a hell of a task. I tire mounted in a previous life and any tire more than 2" wider than a wheel is not only a b|tch to mount, but not very savory for daily road use. Visually, you are right. That is where you come to the "wow something is not quite right there". :o
Regardless of whatever route anyone takes, doing some research and asking questions is needed. We have had too many members here buy wheels and/or tires just come to find out they aren't gonna work or they don't look "quite right". This thread should end up getting cleaned up and getting stickied eventually. :)
http://pics.livejournal.com/uncle_asa/pic/000qptxg
Skad Triton Diamond R16 J7 D109.7
Cooper Discoverer STT 265/75R16
http://pics.livejournal.com/uncle_asa/pic/000d82xs
Skad Triton Selena R16 J7 D109.7
Bridgestone Ice Cruiser 5000 245/70R16
Rims manufacturer web site: http://www.skad.ru.
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/515/P9020006.JPG
Mr.Badguy
Rims are American Racing - Fuel (need size info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DSC01606.JPG
BOSSKE
Rims are Dante 20 inch wheels
Tires are 36 inch super swamper IROKs
(Lifted)
Formerly dstruction's VX
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/100_1603.jpg
Knivx
Rims are Hummer H3 Wheels 16x7.5 (+38mm offset)
Tires are Nitto Terra Grapplers 265/75r16 (Diameter 31.54 in)
(Stock height) Front T-bars are cranked to level the vx (about an inch) and the front of the front wheelwells are trimmed just slightly
Knivx's Wheel Thread
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...084_Large_.JPG
uncle_asa
Rims are Skad Triton Diamond 16x7
Tires are Cooper Discoverer STT 265/75R16 (Diameter 30.6 in)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...vxboat_001.jpg
bigkoala1
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Lifted)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da..._Black_002.jpg
custom
Rims are American Racing - Fuel (need size info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/h...s/557002v2.jpg
Rook
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are 285/75/16 dueler M/T's (Diameter 32.8 in)
(Lifted)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/515/110_1044.JPG
moon buggy
Rims are 20'' (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...zz_mom_25_.JPG
totallto
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...hicross-41.jpg
JaxVX
Rims are Ultra 20" (need size info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da.../179angle2.jpg
nyc #1 ironman
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...X_pics_004.jpg
BeeVenom
Rims are KMC Thunder 20x9
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DSC01787.JPG
ezem1y
Rims are Mickey Thompson Classic Locks (need size info)
Tires are Nitto Terra Grapplers (need size info)
(Lifted)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da.../IMG_00043.JPG
JGeorge264
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are Nokian Vatiiva 31x10.50x15
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/2/1043.jpeg
dave3702
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/2/664vx_side.jpg
lenny
Rims are 20"
Tires are 295/40/20
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da.../315my_vx2.jpg
james1_10018
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...46dsc00189.jpg
sugino
Rims are Boyd Coddington Timeless 6 wheels (20 X 9.5 , 6.0 backspace)
Tires are Yokohama AVS S/T (295/45VR-20) (Diameter 30.5 in)
(Lifted) OME 912 rear springs + adj. torsion bars. Flipped ball joints. Trim cladding.
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DSC00990.JPG
sam
Rims are 20" x 9.5 Antera 325
Tires are 295/40/r20 offset of +35 (Diameter 29.3 in)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...4-Photo_24.jpg
WILLY
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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Here ya go: http://21st-century-tires.com/simex/suvspecs.html
Triathlete showed me this link cuz I fell in love with those tires too...
This thread is awesome. Once it is done and as much info as we can is inputed, we should make a downloadable pdf of the photos and info.
Bart
These are my 2nd set of wheels that I’m going to use as off road beaters. They’re 15x8 mid 90s American racers. They barely clear the calipers. The way I see it you want the smallest wheel with the biggest tire if you want to play in the sand and slick rock. The only thing I worry about is catching a rock between the caliper and the wheel.
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/MyVX003.jpg
Just be careful or your VX could start to look like this.
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...wheels_555.jpg
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...VeeVeeside.JPG
Mr.Quackers
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are Yokohama Geolander A/T (need size info)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/MyVX003.jpg
kodiak
Rims are 15x8 mid 90s American racers
Tires are (need more info)
(Lifted)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DSCN0877.JPG
nates33
Rims are Silver 18x8 Borbet CW3
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/h...res/BG_6v2.jpg
JULIAN911
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are Dunlop Rover
(Lifted)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...82jeffdome.jpg
TucsonVX
Rims are 17" MAK
Tires are 285/65/17 Nitto Terra Grabbers (Diameter 31.6 in)
(Lifted)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...b_2007_052.jpg
nocturnalVX
Rims are Black Rock Crawler (need size info)
Tires are Pro Comp all-terrain (need size info)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/P1010955.JPG
VXstickers
Rims are Moto Metal MO957 17x9
Tires are Mickey Thompson Bear Claw Radials 33/12.5/17
(Lifted)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/p1000399.jpg
Pigpen
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A® KO (need size info)
(Lifted)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/2/VX21.jpg
v2
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/h...IMG_9247v2.jpg
Petos
Rims are 20" XTC Escalades
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
Formerly Rickster's VX
Same VX with Spinners
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...wheels__3_.jpg
Rickster
Rims are 20" XTC Escalades w/Spinners
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...left_angle.jpg
TDAWG
Rims are Konig NRN 16X8
Tires are 32X11.5 Mickey Thompson BAJA Belted
(Stock height)
Same VX with different Wheels and Tires
http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/h...ires/tdawg.jpg
Rims are 20X8.5 America Racing Hype Rims
Tires are Hankook Ventus Tires (need size info)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da.../with_caps.JPG
orion
Rims are stock 2000 Rodeo steel wheels
Tires are Difinity Dakota M/T LT265/75R16 (Diameter 31.6 in)
(Lifted)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/VX_crawl.JPG
pbkid
Rims are Stock Toyota 4runner rims
Tires are 31" Goodyear Wrangler MTR
(Lifted) 2" lift
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/IMG_0128.JPG
UNEVEN THOUGHTS
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Lifted)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/f_drv_2.jpg
tbigity
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...139rodney1.jpg
SCUDD
Rims are MAK Wheels (need size info)
Tires are Pirelli Scorpion Zero (need size info)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...dlands0002.jpg
yal^
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A® KO (need size info)
(Lifted)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/2/shoes_1_s.jpg
webdog
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/2/AFTER_LIFT.JPGhttp://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/2/FLEX.JPG
Ultra Goliath wheels: 108mm bore
6 on 5.5, 18x9, 5.5" back space, +12mm offset
General Grabber AT2 275/65/18 P-metric
OME919 springs
14 turns on t-bar
I want to give a huge shout out to Riff Raff for all his research on the best tire for the Vx, at 44lbs and under 150 dollars, this tire is amazing, and should easily dethrone the terra grappler, if you can get ahold of these tires, they are on national back order at most retailers.
Yeah but at the 275 width instead of the Terra Grapplers 285 width, they do not look half as good in my opinion, and the Terra Grapplers side wall pattern is more attractive in my opinion, to each his own, I would definitely still pick the Terra Grapplers over those especially since I know how many ridiculous miles I got out of those things ;)
nfntruth, that Proton is NICE looking!
Good job.
Bart
Thanks Bart, too bad you took the racing stripe idea;) My safari rack is somewhat unique as well, it's not the normal square/rectangle shape, and its stamped with a large "X" at each junction,
http://www.discountramps.com/cargoIm...o-basket-1.jpg
It should fit the unique curves of the Vx perfectly. I will of course post new pics when its on.
As far as the Terra Grapplers, I think of them like Nikes, everyone gets them cause the swoosh on the side...lol. If I could have put any tire I wanted, I would have gone with the Toyo Mud Terrain, that's my favorite as far as looks go, but for a daily driver, no way!!!!
That's my bad, I had downloaded the desktop wallpaper of the Proton Vx on "mars" and I keep thinkin it was called Bart's Vx...but yes, it is Kodiak's Proton...
With much chagrin,:smack:
Chris
Copy away!;) Yeah, it would be nice to have another stripped VX on the board. But be carful, Put some thought in to it. I’ve seen some pretty bad stripe jobs and I’d hate to see a bad stripe job on a VX. Research the style you want and try and find a good vinyl kit.
http://www.myzarya.ru/forum1/index.p...e=post&id=1110
Russian Mystery Owner ?
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO (need size info)
(Lifted)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...051303_160.jpg
Green Dragon
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM 265/75/16 (Diameter 31.6 in)
(Lifted) 3inch lift with OME 912 Springs, ARB Front Lockers
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/IMG_4734.JPG
VXIRONwoMAN
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO (need size info)
(Lifted)
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http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/h...hop20014v2.jpg
Captain Nakamura
Rims are 18" BBS (need size info)
Tires are Pirelli Scorpion Zero 255/55R18 (Diameter 29.0 in)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/121o2a2.jpg
Vx O2
Rims are Silver 18x8 Borbet CW3
Tires are Yokohama AVS 255/55SR18 (Diameter 29.0 in)
(Stock height)
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http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/h...ires/moon3.jpg
Mooncraft VX
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Lowered??)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...102_212108.jpg
CIAUS
Mooncraft VX
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Lowered??)
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http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/h...res/481908.jpg
Mystery Owner
Mooncraft VX
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Lowered??)
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http://www.tubusracing.com/images/vehicross.jpg
Tubus Racing Team
Rims are “ROH” rims, made in Australia
Tires are Bridgestone Dueler M/T 235/85 R16 (Diameter 31.7 in)
(Lifted)
Same VX or another Team vehicle with different Wheels
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...allpapre03.jpg
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are Bridgestone Dueler M/T 235/85 R16 (Diameter 31.7 in)
(Lifted)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/64410.jpg
Team Yokohama's Geolander VehiCross
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are Yokohama's (need more info)
(Lifted)
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http://www.outrefranc.com/salons/det...uvehicross.jpg
Ironman sponsorship VX
Rims are White 18x8 Borbet CW3
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...051403_016.jpg
Mystery Owner ?
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are Super Swamper Boggers (need size info)
(Lifted)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/sot2.jpg
Mystery Owner ?
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are Yokohama Geolander H/T (need size info)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/2/DSC01801.JPG
Y33TREKker
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/h...es/cmc01v2.jpg
Mystery Owner ?
Rims are Silver 18x8 Borbet CW3
Tires are Yokohama AVS (need size info)
(Stock height)
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http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/h...BabyBlueVX.jpg
Mystery Owner ?
Rims are 22" (need size info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...8p4150004a.jpg
JohnK
Rims are 20" Players wheels (need size info)
Tires are Nitto P245/35/ZR20 (Diameter 26.8 in)
(Stock height)
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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/60/16...b08386.jpg?v=0
Mystery Owner ?
Rims are (need more info)
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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http://farm1.static.flickr.com/251/5...a6cbc3.jpg?v=0
Mystery Owner ?
Rims are 16"X 8" American Racing "Breaker"
Tires are (need more info)
(Stock height)
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Man, I can't believe how many combos there are out there. Cool to see them all in one place.
And why can't my VX's paint job look like this:
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/2/DSC01801.JPG
:( :( :( :( :(
Bart
ya thats one hell of a wax job.....lol....;)
There’s just something about the FJs OEM 17in steel wheels.:rolleyes: With some flat mat black paint and some nice MTs or some Baja tires it would look so tuff.
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...-16_00000R.jpg
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/MTs.jpg
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...ser-wheels.jpg
Check out these bad boys:
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...lean_VX_05.jpg
Yeah, that's right! Rollin' Geolanders wrapped around some SWEET 'teens from Isuzu.:rolleyes: Sorry, just had to put that up.
I'm with Bart; how come my VX doesn't get that clean. I saw that picture and it looks like the paint is liquid. Nice job!!
No offense taken "NFNTRUTH79" (tit4tat). I'm just glad that "total piece of junk" of yours found the best possible home to bring it back to life!!! Job well done. It just goes to prove that a little TLC goes a long way. Your Proton looks simply dazzling, and those Grabber AT2's are just awesome at only 44 lbs, and under $150. The Terra Grappler's have been officially de-throned. Welcome the new VX tire king, the Grabber AT2.
ntntruth,
Hey can you post a close up pic of your VX tires/wheels? I want to get a better look at the tire that replaces the Nitto. I'm always looking to upgrade.
Peace.
Tom
012009
p.s.
Your VX looks sharp.
Tom, here ya go, if you want more, let me know.
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DSCN6319.JPGhttp://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DSCN6317.JPG
Thanks for the pic.
It looks like a great tire..................but as far as dethrowning the Nitto Terra Grappler............. I don't think so.
Hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Peace.
Tom
012009
The grabbers look good for an all around (read...mostly road/a little trail use) tire. Grabber tires usually get good reviews. Just not aggressive enough for my taste!
heres mine
17x9 Cepek Rims
Continental Cross Country tires
265 65 17
Torsions lifted in the front
not sure what springs in the back
maybe someone can enlighten me on what stock springs
are probably in the rear. thanks.
http://www.motorsportwarehouse.com/space/vx007.jpg
btw, Billy I just picked up a Ironman myself
making it two in the garage.