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Still not sure if I will be there, but was talking to a auto glass guy. Wanted to know what adhesive he would use. He, (speedyglass) tend to use a 2 part epoxy. one thing he said and I notice that these brackets from SBC or who ever made doesn't have is 'holes' for the epoxy to ooze out which would give it a good foot hold. makes sense to me.
I agree, small holes would "grip" the adhesive better. Even one or two per side.Quote:
Originally Posted by rowhard
Hot glue would not be my first choice either.
I would have to do a search, but one of the L.A. area members, bought a $90. tube of 3m window adhesive.
I'll let Eric choose his adhesive.
I will be using "Pool Putty", made by "Epoxybond", to patch holes in swim pools. (to re-do my rear window tab)
Hardens like rock, bonds to most everything, and stick a broken allen wrench in a ball of the stuff and you have a handle. Great stuff. About 11-15 Dollars for two large tubes. Enough to make a (hard) softball.
I think you could mold a water pump cover or repair a impeller blade.
Anyway, good input, and I hope we see you.
Do you have Kyle's address?
sounds a bit like JB Weld. Have used that to patch a hole in gearbox side cover on a friends dirty bike one weekend in the middle of no-where.
No, I have no idea where he lives, last I knew, it was Spanaway but he was looking then for another place up north.
Okay, I've got an address and my GPS and a video camera and my metal window tabs and some 2-part epoxy.
All I need now is a meeting time! What time are we all meeting? And who all will be there? And who's bringing donuts?
:bwgy:
I'm leaving tonight for Winlock, (a few hours from now).
I hope I don't forget anything....
I will hit the road again early Saturday morning (8:30 ?)
Looks like three of us @ Kyle's, around 10 am.
Anyone else may come, if they want to, just PM Kyle, for directions. (Still Spanaway)
Doughnuts are bad for my health :(
A Saint Patty's Beer is healthy?????
Just checking in from Winlock.
Gas is about $3.60 here :waag:
:_steering on my way!
I think my brother is going to tag along :homer:
I'm leaving in about a half-hour...be there around 10:15 am, with luck!
Eric
Groovy, I'll be here. ;Db;
So, how did the video shot go?
I'm just about ready to head back to Oregon.
I should have better pre-paired myself, but hindsight is always better.
I think the shoot went well, Eric was great. I managed to save his plastic window tabs to redo my broken tabs.:cool:
It was getting dark while we were still working on Kyle's windows.
I think it is important to note again, that Phines window fix, Widening the front window guide is still a very important part of easing the stress on the regulator.
Having 3 sets of windows at one time, showed just how different each Widow problem and adjustment can be.
It wasn't possible to film every detail, but the end result will be clearer to everyone, who has not opened there door panel before, to understand the parts of the window guide and regulator.
P.S. I thought I was taking a short cut home, but I added 40 miles to the distance:eek:
Washington road signs leave out a lot of info.:mad:@ myself.
Funny story, though:
Bill had done EVERYTHING right on my passenger side window. Between the disassembly, careful handling with the window tint, carefully removing the still-good plastic window tabs, cleaning it, epoxying the new metal tab, reinstalling, videotaping and narrating...well, it took a few hours.
Strangely, though, with all of the "improvements", the window was actually going up SLOWER than before the fix. We kept tweaking it, and it kept going up slower...and slower...and slower.
Finally, um, we realized that the stereo had been running pretty much all day. And with the constant window use and abuse, we'd completely drained my battery!!! :eek:
So, important safety tip: if your window is going up slowly, check your battery.
Here ends today's sermon.
That's what I call A "Then It Hits Me" Moment.
any news on the video?
Sorry everyone...the video is still safely tucked away, untouched, inside the video camera. I've been too busy to even download it to my computer, much less take care of editing, subtitles, music etc.
Unless...unless...are there any iMovie experts out there with too much free time on their hands who would like to take a crack at editing the raw footage?
:bgwg:
So Eric, once you got your battery recharged, did those new and improved brackets fix the problem?
Im no expert but im pretty handy at Sony Vegas Pro 8. Also have a webserver to upload to. Would be glad to help!Quote:
Originally Posted by PHO2GR4
I started on mine this past weekend and found a different issue. Inside the door, inside the rubber where the window runs, was very very sticky/tacky. Like there was glue there. So, even with the new metal tabs installed the window wouldn't run up. I ordered some new rubber from St. Charles Isuzu and hopefully that will do the trick.
Unfortunately I got my VX (in Seattle) the week after you guys did this so I missed out.
Anything on the video yet? I really wanted to do this fix this weekend and it would be really nice to have a video to work from.
Thanks for working on this!
crager34,
The rubber weather strip on my driver side window went FUBAR so I just cut out the front portion & replaced with felt. Worked like a charm but I still have to add a little extra to remove a tiny bit of wind noise.
Tom
Done yet?????????????????????
Editing can be slow and boring! Not getting paid, squeezing it in during "Free Time", assuming you have free time....Quote:
Originally Posted by JHarris1385
My lack of preparation, made the raw footage, just that, RAW!
After filming, I have reflected on the effort, and think there are a few short-cuts, that could improve the technique.
Like bolting the new tabs to the arm, applying the glue, then before to glue sets, set the glass in and raise the glass to center it into the opening.
I totally skipped the "phines" window fix; "Widening the front window track" on Eric's VX.
It's hard to make that type of change to someone else's Beautiful VX. (In hindsight, I should have done All the filming on my VX and I should have brought every tool to demonstrate how to do each step)
Mine was already widened, so that technique was not even filmed.
Eric's did not seem to need that step, but Kyle's would have improved in speed and power, if we had time to complete that step on his.
I wish the distance was not so great, I would have made another stab at fixing Kyle's, and brought some of my tools that worked for me on the widening technique.
Kyle's VX taught me how unique each window adjustment can be.
My window was well worn and broken, Their front window rubber was like brand new, and very tight fitting, so much so, that ANY part of the rubber that was not seated completely in the guide, was enough to stall the window.
To me this means the "phines" fix is important to window speed.
Kyle's window needed a few spacers only on the bottom to prevent the glass from poking out of the rear rubber guide, even though the arm was NOT separating from the regulator. Eric's needed none. Eric's driver door appeared to have been repaired by a Dealer. We found the wires from the lock IN THE GUIDE, being cut by the glass???? The tabs looked tougher than the stock tabs.
Glueing the tabs to the glass in place, would have saved a lot of trial and error adjusting the for and aft placement of the tabs.
Window Tint requires a lot of care not to scratch.
Rain happens, in the NW.
It is also a good idea to have spare "Christmas trees" (the white plastic barbs that hold the door panel to the door) We (I) averaged one broken per door.
Eric has the RAW footage to make the "BASIC" how-to, but not enough footage to make a 'one for all' type of "MANUAL".
The fault there, lies completely on my poor planning, and my lack of experience, only having my own VX repair as my "Expertise".
My window is even better, having Eric's old tabs to replace my broken tabs.
Making the whole experience worthwhile to me. :)
(I don't think we even filmed the method we used to separate the tabs from the glass)
Anyway, if Eric can work some magic with what he does have "In the Can", I think it would take a lot of time to edit in a way that would make sense to Do It Yourself-Ors.
I think it might have to wait for another get-together to tweak the footage to be more all inclusive. (Maybe I should have downloaded his camera while I was there)
Any delays, or soured high expectations, are solely MY FAULT. I did not give Eric a lot to work with. I hope to get this project back on track, but the distance involved is GREAT. I should have better prepared.
Sorry.
Dont' worry about any shortcomings, actually you guys really did go above and beyond to help others with the same problem. Regardless of what is not in the video, it certainly will help all of us learn much more about the window issue and provide a general guide to fix it. Even video on basic things like removing the door panel will be a big help and save others time while doing the fix :thumbup:
When do you plan to have version 1 of the video up for viewing? Perhaps the first version doesn't need to be that refined, just have a few parts of the video stringed together with some captions/audio commentary here and there.
Kids soccer will be done in another two weeks.
I will try to plan a trip up north soon after, if Eric and Kyle have the time.
If I can get together with Eric, I will download his footage and work on a Raw version (beta 0.1)
This is great. I have my brackets ready and waiting. Be sure to mention tools needed and the best glue to be used.
Thanks again.
Hey Jharris, you shouldn't be afraid to jump in and do it... I owned my VX for 4 days, and day one my window broke (actually mile one). I got home, got on this site, everyone said order the SBC, I did. They Came. I took off the door panel, went AHHHHH....
Popped of the remaining tab, glued on the SBC bracket, slid the window back in, and done. 30minutes, work, and a very happy me :)
(BTW I recommend an .mov file, or mp4, the formats used for apple trailers, highly compressible and very high quality)
Got my brackets today and was wondering if the video is ready yet Before I try to install ??
I'm starting to have a feeling that there's no video. I'd be nice to see a bunch of still frames from the video that was shot though. It's scary ripping apart your baby that you've had since it was brand new without much of a clue what you're doing.
Actually, I forwarded the raw footage to kpaske for editing. It won't win any Oscars, but I think there is enough info for a decent "how to" short.
PS: so far the window fix works just fine. No problems or regrets. :)
Thanks guys! Looking forward to the video, I need to fix my windows!
<Sigh> Sorry guys, I have the footage, but simply have not had the time to assemble it into a howto. :(
Cool maybe you can grab 10 or 20 screen captures of the important steps and put a little caption under them. Hopefully that would take only an hour or two rather than the days and days to edit a movie into something interesting and then those of us about to make the jump could be a little better prepared.Quote:
Originally Posted by kpaske
Is that a good idea or what?!?!?!