honda insight

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Originally Posted by johnnyapollo

Hey Spike - that "study" has been debunked. Seems the setup of the Hummer factory was left out of the equation as "unavailable" or some-such. If you'll do a search on it you'll find that's it's an attempt at misdirection.

-- John

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Ok, but the rest of my comments were valid...

oh... speaking of the 500... here is one taking a ride on a train!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aciPS...eature=related

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Originally Posted by Spike

I wouldnt touch a Prius with a 10 foot crankshaft ... Plus they are hideous looking... and in my personal experience, their owners are often extremely arrogant... to the point of wanting to ban plastic testicles from the back of vehicles in Maryland. :P

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See "Smug" episode of South Park.:smilewink

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Originally Posted by Ldub

See "Smug" episode of South Park.:smilewink

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http://www.southparkzone.com/episode...ug-Alert!.html

ROFL! Never caught that one... SO much truth!!!

You wanna see smug? The Prius drivers have got nothing on me in the EV!

Joe is right. The Prius is merely a high-efficiency gasoline powered car, albeit a relatively big and powerful one. I will be trading it for a plug-in hybrid as soon as they come to market.

Foreign oil is the biggest problem our country faces. Wars are not fought over electricity.

As for changing your own oil, you can do it without a problem. Just make sure the car is off. You wouldn't change the oil with the key on in the VX, would you? You make it sound like the Prius is "Christine" or something. There are fewer moving parts in a Prius than in a Vehicross. No starter, no alternator, no slushbox, no transfer case, no second differential.

The Prius has its flaws. But it is the most environmentally friendly (new) car you can buy besides the Tesla Roadster.

Anyway, I digress.

Nate

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Originally Posted by nater

You wanna see smug? The Prius drivers have got nothing on me in the EV!

Foreign oil is the biggest problem our country faces. Wars are not fought over electricity.

The Prius has its flaws. But it is the most environmentally friendly (new) car you can buy besides the Tesla Roadster.

Anyway, I digress.

Nate

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You did get the memo about smug not being a good thing, right?:smilewink

Also, you say wars are not fought over electricity?...I seem to recall a pretty good row between two dudes named Edison & Westinghouse. ( IIRC, Tesla & Kelvin were the corner men...can't remember the name of the ring girl):rotate:

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Originally Posted by Ldub

You did get the memo about smug not being a good thing, right?:smilewink

Also, you say wars are not fought over electricity?...I seem to recall a pretty good row between two dudes named Edison & Westinghouse. ( IIRC, Tesla & Kelvin were the corner men...can't remember the name of the ring girl):rotate:

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Ldub,
I always love your comments, they're great!
I think the War over electricity was fought on Wall St. and court rooms.
Very different kind of "smart" bombs, few if any were killed.

LOL! I do know somebody who is more smug than me. He has TWO RAV4-EVs, and every month he gets a statement showing how much is owed by the Dept of Water and Power. His solar panels generate all of the electricity needed to run TWO cars (20,000 miles per year EACH), all of his household needs, and then some extra. The extra electricity he sells back to the utility, and they post a credit to his account. It's grown to a few thousand dollars over the years, but they refuse to send him a check.

Well, technically, he isn't smug, he's had an epiphany. He's also in the film "Who Killed the Electric Car."

I've had the same epiphany, but I'm still a little smug. It's kind of like when you first got a cell phone, and you have this epiphany that you can carry a PHONE in your pocket. But what if you had a cell phone, but nobody else did? Wouldn't you tell everyone you knew? Show it to them, let them try it out? Would a landline ever be the same? Sure, it has its downsides, like it has to be charged all the time, but, damn, it's cool.

Nate

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Originally Posted by nater

LOL! I do know somebody who is more smug than me. He has TWO RAV4-EVs, and every month he gets a statement showing how much is owed by the Dept of Water and Power. His solar panels generate all of the electricity needed to run TWO cars (20,000 miles per year EACH), all of his household needs, and then some extra. The extra electricity he sells back to the utility, and they post a credit to his account. It's grown to a few thousand dollars over the years, but they refuse to send him a check.

Well, technically, he isn't smug, he's had an epiphany. He's also in the film "Who Killed the Electric Car."

I've had the same epiphany, but I'm still a little smug. It's kind of like when you first got a cell phone, and you have this epiphany that you can carry a PHONE in your pocket. But what if you had a cell phone, but nobody else did? Wouldn't you tell everyone you knew? Show it to them, let them try it out? Would a landline ever be the same? Sure, it has its downsides, like it has to be charged all the time, but, damn, it's cool.

Nate

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I spent a number of years "nearly off the grid"...but in a different way.
I got all my water from the gutter system on the house & out buildings, that all dumped into a 95000 gal cistern & supplied all house water & irrigated about 11 acres of coffee. (You can't imagine the things I've seen in there, thank God for filtration)
My solar water heat was circulated by a pump driven by a photovoltaic cell. I wasn't there long enough to implement a wind generator.

Alas, now I'm back to living in a town with the rest of the sheeple, but, believe it or don't, I still have no need for a cel phone (though I once had a job that required me to have one), haven't had any type of broadcast television since last September, though I do love a good Blu Ray movie or video game on my LCD flat panel & PS3.

Oh, I'm Soooo conflicted.:rolleyesg

Now, back to our regularly scheduled topic...please.:razzgray:

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Originally Posted by Bulldoggie

Ldub,
I always love your comments, they're great!
I think the War over electricity was fought on Wall St. and court rooms.
Very different kind of "smart" bombs, few if any were killed.

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Edison cooked an elephant to prove the inherant danger in Westinghouse's methods. We fry up humans the same way still