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Passenger window coming off track again.
I have found now that paint is coming off wipers also.
I signed petition!!! EVERYONE SIGN UP!
I never listed my problems, so here they are:
- Windows off track: Dealer said they fixed the problem (they all do, don't they?). Still binds with rubber sealer when going up, every now and then... and still pretty slow.
- Headlight gaskets: Both came off at the same time. Dealer said they would just glue them back on, so I did it myself.
Windows slowed, went off track and finally busted plastic tabs on window. Had to replace whole window and regulator (driver's side).
Headlight gaskets coming off. Replaced headlight assemblys.
Wiring harness rubbed behind left headlight causing wire to fray and ground, losing console and tail lights.
My 2001 Dragon woes:
1) headlight gaskets coming loose
2) wiper arms and door handles faded & peeled
3) the infamous wet floor mat
4) pressure (or I guess lack thereof) for windshield wiper fluid nozzles
windows and cd changer still OK but I only have 11,000 miles.
-gruven:supercool
My list of 'unprovoked' problems...
1) headlight gaskets coming loose
2) wiper arms and door handles faded & peeled
3) both windows ended up binding and coming off track, so I tore the doors open and fixed them myself. I don't trust the dealer here.
If any of you VX owners have the window problem and have given up on the dealer fixing it, contact me. I'll help you out.
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REPLAYE SC2
My 1999 Isuzu VehiCROSS Problems: (33,000 miles)
- Headlight gaskets came off. (re-glued myself)
- Passenger side window ended up binding and coming off track.
- Starter went (replaced under warranty).
- CD changer on the fritz (fixed temporally by banging on the left side)
- Annoying squeaks from tail gate. (sorta fixed from dealer).
- Windshield wiper arms peeling.
- Headlight lenses cracking/Peeling inside.
-Dave
Hey everybody.....forgive me if this was already posted but exactly what's going to happen with this petition or where is it going to be sent?
Reason I'm asking is this, I had a little conversation with an Isuzu Owners Regional Manager for PA and well besides denying the existence of most of the popular defects pointed out here, he suggested that if there are truly multiple issues or defects they need to be well documented from owners with dealer repair records, pictures, and submitted to Isuzu directly for consideration. He mentioned that the only way Isuzu would honor any type of relief or maybe even a part redesign to remedy defects is if they have hard, repetitive and conclusive proof of the defects in large enough numbers. He also mentioned that a letter of intent be sent to this address to start the process:
Isuzu Motors, Inc.
Owner Relations
16323 Shoemaker Avenue.
Cerritos, CA 90702
I think this petition is a great idea. These things should not continue to happen within a reasonable amount of time on any vehicle, plain and simple. Not when Isuzu clearly advertises on their website that they do countless hours of testing to their vehicles to ensure quality and performance. It's borderline misleading advertising and depending on the rate of repair, vehicle diminished value as part of some state lemon laws. Anyways, just wanted to throw all that out there.....sorry for the rant folks.
I purchased my VehiCross 2 months/2200 miles ago.
I know the previous owner had in the past 6 months taken it in to get a power window fixed. I believe he said it was in 3 times before they replaced the motor.
The rear shocks were replaced. He didn't even know they were bad, because his wife drove it, and never said anything.
The dealer in Wisconsin noticed it and took care of them.
As I just hit 30,000 miles, I just had it in at the dealership getting a new short block, due to a very lsudden and oud rod knock and to get headlight weather stripping taken care of.
They replaced the short block, oil pump, and both headlamp housings. Took 2 weeks, and I was not entitled to a rental from the factory warranty. I only drove15 miles since I picked it up with the new engine, I didn't want to deal with rush hour traffic.
I will get a better sense of how it is driving later on this evening.
While I am surprised that I got it back within 2 weeks. To need half an engine at such a young life, is a bit severe.
Oh yea.. #45
Passanger Window - 4 times
Driver Windows - 3 times
CD Changer - 3 times
Headlight Gaskets
Rear Axel Seals
Front ABS sensor
Window Washer Motor
I am signed on, my biggest complaint is noisy differential at 60 mph plus, dealer replaced both rear wheel bearings, didnt make a difference but cant get him to do more, going to the meet in Ocala to document if others have noise if they don't I am going to do my own petition as well.
Passanger Window - 2 times
Driver Windows - 2 times
Headlight Gaskets
CD Changer was replaced and is acting up again, They told me that my CD's were too scratched which by the look of the returned CD's was definately not the case. It also took about 6 months to get my CD's back.
I am still in debate over my peeling rims (It's been over a month now with no responce from the head guy (Anchorage rep.))
EDIT: after nearly 2 months of calling they finally got back to me and denied the replacement of my rims. They didn't give me an explanation why. Just gave me a 1-800 # to complain.
I also want to add that my hood is not straight, Its such a sleek looking car but with a hood thats not on straight it just really sticks out to me.
EDIT2: Northern 4x4 ordered my injection o-rings from my local Isuzu shop and guess what.... The dealership ordered 1 o-ring and tried to charge the shop $18.75 for it. The shop was like "So what about the other 5 o-rings", Isuzu replied "what 5 others, you only ordered one" The shop called BS and sure enough Isuzu looked back at their records and saw an order of 6 injector o-rings. Now the rings are supposedley on next day air to the dealership, shipping being paid for by Isuzu. That would make Isuzu the reason my car has been in the shop for an extra 3-4 days. I'm not very happy (in fact I'm pissed) with this "service"
I've had no problems except the defective windows (fixed for now) and headlight rubber (total replacement of both headlight assemblies under warranty). I leased my 99 Ebony in October, 1999 when the price was at its highest. The lease terminates this October and provides for a $16K purchase price. The total outlay would probably set a record for the most expensive stock VX in America. Nevertheless, given the maximum satisfaction and minimal problems presented over only 28K miles, my best option may be to surrender and enjoy it.
is there going to be a separate petition for those with and without modifications
Well, I just became signature # 48...here's my list of issues:
A-Peeling rims-replaced under warranty by Dom's Isuzu/Kia in North Plainfield, NJ. Subsequently, Dom's no longer sells Isuzu or performs warranty work, as of about a month ago.
B-Defective Power/Winter switch-replaced by Open Roads Honda/Mazda/Isuzu under warranty. Open Roads is no longer a "full" Isuzu shop, so I was told by the service writer.
C-Passenger side power window opened slowly-fixed under warranty by Dom's.
D-Rattle in dash-fixed by Dom's.
E-Dome light had a short-replaced by my "new" dealer, Dick Greenfield Dodge/Isuzu in Lawrenceville, NJ.
F-Creaking front suspension-bushings oiled by Dick Greenfield.
G-Cracked Hood Insert-waiting to hear if this is covered by warranty (!) from Dick Greenfield.
There's my list, hopefully it won't get any longer....Question: Wasn't there a post from WSG saying this forum had over 500 members, not too long ago? Then why haven't more people signed the petition? Do the other 90 % of the members of Vehicross.info have absolutely no problems with their VX? Paul T. was kind enough to organize the petition, it seems the least the VX "family" can do is document the repeated quality issues found with our beloved VX's. Also, with the way Isuzu dealerships keep disappearing with alarming frequency, the VX community will need every advantage possible regarding future service concerns. That's my two cents-thanks for listening.
Just a little post to list what ailments my VX has had since I brought her home.
Problem----------------------------------solution
Headlight Seal (passenger) -------Both modules replaced (warr)
Annoying ***** squeak in rear door --------nothing yet
Passenger Window coming off track-----------nothing yet
Driver window sounds like it is starting to------nothing yet
Hood insert stress crack----replaced....twice
Center console latch failed day we bought it, dealer did a hack job fixing it (Dealers suck)
WIERD rattle/electrical arcing noise from dash near A/C vents ???
I am planning on taking it to the dealer here again in a week or so to get the windows fixed, the squeak fixed, and to give them **** about scratches on the hood from where they replaced the hood insert last time. (Wife took it in while I was away on business) I only noticed scratches a few days ago while hand waxing. Scratches are in a place that could only be from lifting hood insert out/putting in.
I have seen people ask if the "cracked hood insert" is covered by warranty, probably has been answered. But, here is my experience. Mine has been replaced TWICE now under warranty. so go tell them to f-ing replace it. The cracks my hood insert developed were drived side about mid way down the insert moving straight across to passenger side. Most likely cause of this crack after looking at it, is over tightening by the joey installing it.
Just my 2 cents with a nickel thrown in.
Wulfgott
#1 All four wheels flaking on the backside @ around 20k miles.
(No action taken since I heard about 12k warranty.)
#2 Passenger side Headlight gasket came loose.
(Fixing myself)
#3 Passenger side window slow to raise/binding.
(Dealer said they corrected and lubed rails under warranty; Problem resurfaced within a week. I have had good success with spraying both window tracks liberally with silicone spray about once every 60 days. Eventually when warranty :rolleyes: expires
I will probably follow the route of that God of a VX'er :p Phines
and apply his expertise.)
#4 Both front stock(KYB) shocks bad.
(Dealer agreed both front shocks bad; replaced under warranty)
On a humorous note; I think you people jinx me 'cause I never have a problem until AFTER I read about yours! My windows were fine until I heard about yours! Stop the Madness! Renounce the Curse!!!;eekp;
Signing the petition....
Window problem, of course. This is not the only problem I have with mine, but it is the only one thus far attributable to manufacturer defect.
I have a small crack in my door panel from someone evidently having been inside the door to fix the windows at least once before, so that's the dealer's fault. Wish I had the previous owner's number or something to verify this happened after they serviced it for that. Not impressed with this dealer (the same one the previous owner had it serviced by at all the proper intervals) so far and would love to make them eat the cost of fixing that, 'cause I just know that's what happened.
I have about 6,750 miles on my 2001 proton VX and noticed the rims are peeling crome and the headlight gaskets are comming loose. Everything must be covered due to low millage !!! Have an appointment Aug 1st to address problems.
Larry
I # 61!
My list of problems:
1: Hood insert crack
2: Head light seals (both)
3: slow windows/binding (replaced motivators both)
4: Seat falling apart (drivers, Replaced)
5: Hood insert cracking again. This time I had them let me install with the tech. They were not wanting to do this but let me in the end. I think the crack is do to improper torquing as when the tech was tighting it down I had to chew him out for "cranking it down" no torque wrench, nothing
6: Bad center console latch thingy. and the darn thing was REALLY loose overall. They replaced the assembly then I had to unbolt and reattach it (they didn't put the right bolts in). Always take pictures of your vehicle before you take it in and after.
7: Crack door trim (both sides) from when they replaced window motivators
8: Dents in passenger door from window motivator replacement. How the heck they managed that I have no clue.
Santa Ana Isuzu sucks.
1999 Ebony
Problems so far:
1. Driver's side window motor
2. Passenger's side window motor
3. Peeling/flaking windshield wipers
1. CD Changer
2. Driver/Passanger Window Motor
3. Headlight Liner coming off in wind
4. Peeling flaking rims
I seem to be having the same problem with the drivers side window going off the track and binding..The headlight gasket's and the wheels pitting on the inside (minor pitts)...I will NOT bring my V-Cross to a dealer for simple repairs or service ..If my engine or something important breaks ,I have to, I will walk around the car with the service guy and note the two minor scratches that I have,and the perfect interior.. Tony B
Got everything fixed under warentee from Hassett Isuzu in wantagh Long Island. They fixed peeling rims, headlight gasket and peeling front lower window cowl (near windshield wipers), and gasket above door on roof (clip broken).
The only problem now is the drivers window is moving slowly but a shot of silicone grease has a quick fix for the moment.
1. Egr valve 3-times since Sept. 03
2.Egr tube 3-times since Sept. 03
3.Power/Winter button 1 time
4.Peeling wheels
I love my VX but I had to fight to get some things taken care of that should be included in my 72 mo optional warrantee.
What happened to your power winter button?
The button still worked sort of...... The winter button would not click and lock into place but the power button still worked fine. Is this what happened to yours
THAT'S ALL THE WINTER BUTTON DOES- 3RD GEAR?
I CAN DO THAT MYSELF AND KEEP IT THERE PAST
20 MPH- I HAD HOPED THAT IT MAY HAVE TRANSFERED
SOME MORE POWER TO THE FRONT WHEELS FOR A BETTER DESCENT/ASCENT ON ICE-
NO WONDER I LOOK LIKE DOROTHY HAMILL DOING
THE CAMEL ON THE ICEY ROADS UP HERE!
;eekr;
Quote:
Originally posted by PWX1
THAT'S ALL THE WINTER BUTTON DOES- 3RD GEAR?
I CAN DO THAT MYSELF AND KEEP IT THERE PAST
20 MPH-
I think you misunderstood what he said.
What the 'Winter' button does is force the transmission into 3rd although you are at a standstill. You pull away from the stop in 3rd gear. You do NOT start in 1st and shift upwards. Therefore, you can't 'do that yourself.'
Forcing the transmission into 3rd from a stop decreases the tendency to spin the rear wheels on the ice or snow as you pull away. This therefore decreases the chance that you might lose control of the vehicle and allow it to slide sideways into a ditch....or into somone else at the traffic light.
Think ice. Think snow. Think slippery. Think reduced torque. You'll figure it out.
....sT
GOT IT! - BEING A PHD I DO UNDERSTAND PHYSICS
JUST WAS HOPING IT WORKED A LITTLE LIKE
THE DOWNHILL ASCENT BUTTON ON A ROVER!
SINCERELY,
HALF-WIT
Quote:
Originally posted by PWX1
GOT IT! - BEING A PHD I DO UNDERSTAND PHYSICS
Well....isn't that odd? A bit more than twenty years ago, when *I* was a Doctoral candidate, I already knew that leaving ones' Caps Lock on gave the impression of yelling.
Sigh,
.....sT
http://www.wtv-zone.com/markg/mag/imag/button.jpg
4WD Lo is the best thing for slippery or steep descents without braking. I made it all the way down Mt. Washington, NH without braking in 2nd and 3rd 4WD Lo. In some spots, it was a 20% grade.
Mark
Simple question, simple answer.. I know that Simon did not mean any offense. With keyboards, you have to remember there is a lack of emotion and that can be misconstrued. However, when a posting is made in all caps, it is read as a shout, which in turn can lead to a less than desireable reaction.
On a side note, I am working on a script to eliminate shouting in posts to help curb some problems.
opps
i was working off my laptop while stuck at dulles-
forgot the so called message board etiquette-
didn't mean to interupt the flow o fgreat ideas-
not even sure i spelled all the big words right!
happy new year- thanks for the diagram-
No my winter light does not come on in the instrument cluster and the button does not stay down like the power button does. Ive tried messing with it and I think the switch failed. Ill get it in to the shop as soon as I can... Its not like we have any snow here in PA......:( :( :(
The winter button does not lock down, it is a momentary switch. The light will only come on when you are at a full stop and only then will the winter mode activate.. If you think there is a problem then definately get it to the shop.. I KNOW you have snow up there in your neck of the woods.. Don't want anything to happen to one of our brothers!
My winter button wasn't working before my engine was replaced. I could push it while at a stop and nothing would happen, no light and no change in gearing. I didn't tell the dealership it wasn't working when they replaced the engine, but when I picked it up I tried it and it worked. I don't know if it was coincidence or if the service guys actually fixed something that wasn't on the list. It works now and I guess that's all that matters.
I'm outta snow though, can anyone order some up?? Nevermind, I'll be out of town until the middle of this month. Have to wish for some then. Don't think I'll see any snow in Pheonix, AZ?? Then again Vegas got like 3 inches last week.
I just signed the petition, #68.
1999 Ironman, approximately 37,000 miles
Problems:
1.) Driver's side window binding and coming off track.
I attempted the fix and lubed w/ silicone, but window still needs to be guided with hand to stay in track when winding up.
1a. Passenger window slowing, silicone lube seems to help.
2.) Headlight gaskets... previous owner glued, but glue is coming out. In the spring I will re-glue with auto trim adhesive.
3.) Excessively bouncy shocks
4.) Possible oil usage
Even with these problems, I love my VX :D
Joe
#95
1) - Just noticed cracked hood insert.
2) - Passenger seat feels loose.
3) - Faded paint on wiper arms.
All relatively minor stuff. Haven't taken it to a dealer for inspection yet.