Call of Duty 4

Not a Goldeneye fan, I take it?

I just came to a realization like last week. I have acclimated to the dual analog controller. It took about 10 years.

Up until last week I absolutely abhored the idea of using a controller for a FPS. But just the other day when I realized I was playing Crysis with a x360 controller on my PC. I can interchangably play with either mouse/keyboard or controller. Some times I just feel like I want to play on the controller.

THey have an entire generation of kids now that know nothing but playing on a controller. Crazy. Honestly, it was just such an odd empiphany that I realized I came to peace with the controller. I hate-hate-hated it before. But I gues it HAS been 10 years since goldeneye...and Halo, et al, has gradually weaned me over the years. Mouse still more precise...but sometimes I like sitting on a couch, not having anything else in front of me but a controller I don't feel is there, and feeling some tactile feedback when I fire a gun or survive an explosion, etc.

I'm a convert. I feel like I"m suddenly ambidextrous.

That's funny, my gaming life started with this:

http://www.axess.com/twilight/consol...il/vectrex.jpg

To this:

http://www.cedmagic.com/tech-info/re...0-joystick.jpg

To this:

http://www.uncrate.com/men/images/20...controller.jpg

To this and this:

http://news-hs.com/images/news/uploa...controller.jpg

http://www.axess.com/twilight/console/detail/tg16.jpg

And then FINALLY to keyboard with the birth of Doom. The best part about Doom, is that I basically learned how to use computers because of this game, and eventually I made a career out of it. So I have Doom to thank for my salary. :rolleyes: When I first sat down to that 486 machine and opened fire on my first Doom zombie, not only did I see blood squirt out, but the zombie's body fell to the floor, and DID NOT disappear. Instead, his corpse lay there, bloody and dead. It was instantly the greatest video game in the world.

After YEARS of wadding and modding Doom and Doom II, Quake was released. I got quite good at it, and then I heard about a Quake tournament at school. So I went to the college rec building the night of the tournament, signed up, and got ready to play. I found myself sitting next to some serious nerds. And when the battle began, I got instantly slaughtered. I was shocked, and as I sat there, I looked around at all the players. They were using not only their keyboards, but also their mice! I was like OMGWTFBBQ:eek::eek::eek:! All this time I was playing Quake just like I did Doom, with the keyboard only! I never even knew about "+mouselook" or whatever the command was.

But once I discovered mouselook, and as FPS shooters kept getting better, console games became kind of second rate to me. And I still think this. I would rather play 10 FPS PC games, before I play a single console game. I just find 9 out of 10 console games simply suck. And I am a sucker for games that endure. I'm STILL playing and enjoying Counter-Strike....now that's getting your money's worth!

I still think the original Half-Life is quite possibly the best FPS single player gaming experience ever. And nothing compares to Counter-Strike when it comes to multi player....

Now I want to go home and play.

:) Bart

PS - Yes, I'm having a VERY slow day at work....

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Originally Posted by spaceCADETzoom

Not a Goldeneye fan, I take it?

I just came to a realization like last week. I have acclimated to the dual analog controller. It took about 10 years.

Up until last week I absolutely abhored the idea of using a controller for a FPS. But just the other day when I realized I was playing Crysis with a x360 controller on my PC. I can interchangably play with either mouse/keyboard or controller. Some times I just feel like I want to play on the controller.

THey have an entire generation of kids now that know nothing but playing on a controller. Crazy. Honestly, it was just such an odd empiphany that I realized I came to peace with the controller. I hate-hate-hated it before. But I gues it HAS been 10 years since goldeneye...and Halo, et al, has gradually weaned me over the years. Mouse still more precise...but sometimes I like sitting on a couch, not having anything else in front of me but a controller I don't feel is there, and feeling some tactile feedback when I fire a gun or survive an explosion, etc.

I'm a convert. I feel like I"m suddenly ambidextrous.

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My progress is similar...but it started with the atari. And throw in the snes in there after the turbografx. And the computer keyboard came in around the same time. But for me, I had two separate paths develop. I can't pin it to any one pc game that hooked me immediately. BUt I remember Rebel Assault and CD-rom(!) and how "multimedia" gaming was just sooo crazy for me. Wow, a game where theres full motion video and talking! (haha remember myst and 7th guest). I remember X-Wing and flight sims like 1942 Pacific Air War and realizing a console could never have anything nearly as deep as a pc could provide (it's sad looking back 15 years later, understanding that PC gaming has been dumbed down now). It was quake that got me onto mouselook. But I used to own with duke3d and doom when i had a notion to use a flight stick. crazy. I had the stick control turning and forward/backward. And had two buttons programmed for strafing left/right. I remember circle strafing before I realized anyone called it circle strafing!

For a good chunk of time the console branch atrophied while the PC controlled all. Goldeneye was something special. Zelda on the N64...the playstation and its contributions... th late 90s brought me back to consoles because there were just some great forms of entertainment being introduced, regardless of platform or even medium. Now it's pretty much equal for me.

And honestly, I can't emphasize enough how much an epiphany it was that I acclimated to FPS console controls. I was such a snob up until a couple days ago. You know the funny thing? Kids these days are actually being reared as a generation actually preferring the dual analog controller to mouse, with what the steeper requirements of pc gaming, many are unfamiliar with mouselook. Think about it--a lot of kids' first foray nowadays was Goldeneye, not quake. This crazy epiphany happened at the same time a couple days ago: there are actual kids out there that prefer a controller over m&k ! That was unheard of just 2 years ago. I'm definitely never gonna be there. Not in competitive FPS gaming. It's crazy enough that I've come to grips with not automatically throwing up just thinking of playing a FPS with a controller....

i thought the ps3 allows usb mouse and keyboard......

Ive played Quake2 since 97. Mouse and keyboard. I love FPS on the PC but consoles suck. Not to mention with a keyboard you can bind everything on any key. Where a controller your limited to just the handfull of buttons there. And alot of games make you select a config to use ie halo. Where in most PC games you can set the keyboard up to your liking.

Seen some people mention Quake and Quake Wars. Any of ya play Quake2? Or care to?

Nah, Q2 never really hit it big nearly as much as the others in the series. Quake, the first one, was revolutionary when what was it? quakeworld? came out and we figured out how to play over a tcp connection. That was crazy. Of course we were playing over modems pc-to-pc before then. I remember DWANGO and doom. Playing 1 on 1 matches over modem with duke3d, descent...

Q2 I don't remember playing beyond the initial first few months. Actually, now that I thknk about it--q2 held a long shelf life for me in the form of mods, rather than the game itself...prolly why i don't remember playing the orig q2 that much (especially vanilla Q2 multiplayer). When Quake3 Arena came out..! That was the game in college. There were Unreal Tourney adherents, but to me, it was Q3. Of course, college was also big with goldeneye.

Anyway, as I said. Consoles are great in and of themselves. Halo multiplayer is a category all its own. Great fun, surpassing my prior quake fun. Controllers just gradually became ok for me, and I'm kind of ashamed of the closemindedness I had. Still often prefer m&k, but controllers work more "naturally" in certain instances.

Actually, I love Q2 Deathmatch. I played it for years. I would love to play again.

Quake 3 Arena sucked really hard.

Bart

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Originally Posted by KaNGiX

Ive played Quake2 since 97. Mouse and keyboard. I love FPS on the PC but consoles suck. Not to mention with a keyboard you can bind everything on any key. Where a controller your limited to just the handfull of buttons there. And alot of games make you select a config to use ie halo. Where in most PC games you can set the keyboard up to your liking.

Seen some people mention Quake and Quake Wars. Any of ya play Quake2? Or care to?

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Ahhh, I forgot all about Duke Nukem! Great game! Did any of you guys ever play a game called Blood? It was a Duke Nukem total conversion mod I think. That was a really fun game to play as well. I played all those old school FPS games, Hretic, Hexen, Rise of the Triad, and then all the old Blake Stone and Wolf 3-d. All great, great stuff.

I miss playing deathmatch with the first Red Faction too, that was awesome.

Man, if anyone is down for some old school gaming, let me know. We could play online sometime! I'm pretty sure I could host game cause I have some static IPs...

Bart

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Originally Posted by spaceCADETzoom

Nah, Q2 never really hit it big nearly as much as the others in the series. Quake, the first one, was revolutionary when what was it? quakeworld? came out and we figured out how to play over a tcp connection. That was crazy. Of course we were playing over modems pc-to-pc before then. I remember DWANGO and doom. Playing 1 on 1 matches over modem with duke3d, descent...

Q2 I don't remember playing beyond the initial first few months. Actually, now that I thknk about it--q2 held a long shelf life for me in the form of mods, rather than the game itself...prolly why i don't remember playing the orig q2 that much (especially vanilla Q2 multiplayer). When Quake3 Arena came out..! That was the game in college. There were Unreal Tourney adherents, but to me, it was Q3. Of course, college was also big with goldeneye.

Anyway, as I said. Consoles are great in and of themselves. Halo multiplayer is a category all its own. Great fun, surpassing my prior quake fun. Controllers just gradually became ok for me, and I'm kind of ashamed of the closemindedness I had. Still often prefer m&k, but controllers work more "naturally" in certain instances.

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Wow, I don't think I know anybody that preferred Q2 multiplayer to Q3Arena (how is that possible? nostalgia? because I do not see anything better in the previous one). I know plenty of Unreal Tourney guys who preferred it over Q3A...but never heard anybody who was into FPS multiplayer to say Q3A "sucked hard." That's just as surprising as hearing kids say that they can't get used to playing an FPS with mouse/keyboard. Bizarro world. hm. Learn something everyday.

Quake 3 Arena's engine is what sucked. It was almost too fast. What I don't like about Q3Arena is the same as what I don't like about the later Unreal games. I thought Quake 2 deathmatch was VASTLY superior to Arena. It was just more dynamic. Plus you had those awesome "super bombs" that vaporized entire areas of the game. I loved that. I liked the original Unreal, and the first UT.

You know, I also don't care for Team Fortress, especially the new one. I think its quite lame. I don't like the corny cartoonish grafics AT ALL. And again, the game seems almost too fast to even pay attention to what's happening. But then again, I never liked TF to begin with.

CS:S is where its at.

Bart

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Originally Posted by spaceCADETzoom

Wow, I don't think I know anybody that preferred Q2 multiplayer to Q3Arena (how is that possible? nostalgia? because I do not see anything better in the previous one). I know plenty of Unreal Tourney guys who preferred it over Q3A...but never heard anybody who was into FPS multiplayer to say Q3A "sucked hard." That's just as surprising as hearing kids say that they can't get used to playing an FPS with mouse/keyboard. Bizarro world. hm. Learn something everyday.

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Yeah I got COD4 for PS3 and it definitely was amazing. I played COD2 the first day it came out for 11 hours straight first time I put it in until I beat it 11pm-10am and must say that the one player experience of COD4 was better in quality but wow it was over too soon. Maybe they will offer downloadable levels in the future. Anyways I am Decat on PSN if anyone sees me on there.

I loved Duke Nukem.....Come get some! CoD4 online....takes me longer to get there, than my play time:o:rolleyes:

Just bought me a used Genesis Gen2 at a game trade store this weekend. Sadly, the guy also had a Dreamcast but I couldnt bring myself to getting both systems. My conquest to own all the systems continues, heh.

http://www.vidgame.net/SEGA/Sega/Genesis/gen_sys2.jpg

Yeah, I am gonna buy one of those modded original Xboxs and run a MAME, NES, SNES, GENESIS and TURBOGRFX, emulators....

Bart

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Just bought me a used Genesis Gen2 at a game trade store this weekend. Sadly, the guy also had a Dreamcast but I couldnt bring myself to getting both systems. My conquest to own all the systems continues, heh.

http://www.vidgame.net/SEGA/Sega/Genesis/gen_sys2.jpg

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Originally Posted by WormGod

Just bought me a used Genesis Gen2 at a game trade store this weekend. Sadly, the guy also had a Dreamcast but I couldnt bring myself to getting both systems. My conquest to own all the systems continues, heh.

http://www.vidgame.net/SEGA/Sega/Genesis/gen_sys2.jpg

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Gary, if you are looking for a Dreamcast mine is still in excellent condition. In fact we still bring it out for some playtime every once in a while. When we had all the kids over for Thanksgiving guess what they brought out of the closet and played... yup the Dreamcast. Even though I have an Xbox and Xbox360. Let me know if you are interested and I can get a list of everything I have with it.