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No I am not going to ask if 285 60 18s will fit because I read that they would. My question is, what kind of road noise and wear mileage are you getting? I love the look of the grapplers but I dont want to spend $175 each if the are going to wear out quickly. Thanks
Hey there...
I didn't notice any added road noise with the tires, and still haven't.
Tread wear? I've had them for 10k miles now since May (I drive a ton, tis true...) and haven't noticed much wear at all...
They're simply the best thing I've done for the VX since I got it.
-biju.
Biju,
I'm not in the market yet, but if I was I might get some Nittos for my next shoes. I was really impressed with how they looked your VX in Moab.
I did want to ask you if you noticed a big difference in you gas consumption since putting on the Nittos?
Peace.
Tom
I totally love my Nittos. I haven't noticed any real road noise, but then again, I kinda like the sound of off road tires. I had the Pirelli Scorpions previously and these are maybe a tiny little bit louder.
I haven't had them for more than 10000 miles yet either. But, so far, no noticeable wear problems.
I haven't noticed any change in gas mileage.
Haven't really noticed a huge difference in gas consumption really... I mean, maybe 10-20 miles less an entire tank? I dunno - that's just a really rough estimate...
In other words, if there is less mileage per gallon as a result of the tires it hasn't been that noticeable.
MOAB!
-biju.
p.s. tom: i think i still owe you four dollars or so from Moab this year...
As soon as I wear ;) my AVS's out I'm RUNNING to get a set of these!! I love the way the look on the VX as they fill the wheel well and still fit the stock rim..
Here's a good profile shot of Biju's
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/da...m/IMG_0389.JPG
Little to no noise at all and with a treadwear rating of 500 you can't go wrong. I would shop around though, $175 seems a little high since my 305 70's only cost me $115 a tire.
Bill are those the Terra Grappler AT's?? Discount Tire is showing a plain Terra Grappler that has the same ratings as the AT but shows a 255/55/18 which is the same size as my AVS's (For those who don't want to have major changes in speedo)..
The TG 255/55R-18 109S BLK = 165.00 in Colorado
the TG/AT 285/60R-18 RN 120S B = 183.99 in Colorado
Here's the low down on size differences for 2000-2001's:
I've had mine on for just over 10,000 miles and they look awesome. No additional noticable noise for me, but I do have a PV2, and gas mileage is about the same for me.
I just don't think you can go wrong with the Grapplers. You can see some pics in my gallery too.
I've noticed a slight increase in road noise, but I had to turn off the stereo to hear it. As for gas consumption - my in town consumption went up, and my highway consumption went down (and this is after compensating for the change in the speedo readings due to the larger tire diameter). My hypothesis is that the added weight of the Nittos significantly increases the inertia to start rolling from a stand-still, so stop-and-start driving really eats the gas - and I have definitely noticed a loss in pep off the starting line (I love the high-torque jack-rabbit starts so it was pretty apparent to me). While the larger diameter improves the gear ratio for highway-speed driving.
Mine would fall under the AT category. Not sure why there's a difference in name as they have the same specs...
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-biju
For 16 inch rims --
The Nitto TerraGrapplers, at 265/75-16, 31.5" dia., are as big as I can get with out lifting.
A 3/4" point of cladding was cut from in front of the front tires.
This was the free shipping package from Discount Tires Direct at $114 each. I have 18" rims, but the cost was $167 and the 285's are too wide for my stock rims. (In my conservative view) The only snag was that I missed the load rating in the order. It should have been D, for 8 ply not E for 10 ply (Rated). A little less zip and no increase in road noise.
Roy
I've had mine for 26,000 miles, and they look practically brand new. The road noise is increased SLIGHTLY compared to the stock meats, but not enough to be noticable unless you are listening for it.
I got slightly BETTER highway mileage (perhaps 1mpg better) and maybe 1/2 mpg less in town. I got about 17 mpg before and after, averaging things out, so the mileage change could be written off as nil, depending on how you drive.
All around, I give 'em a hearty two thumbs up.
Ron
They have been great tires for me as well. Have about 30,000 on them and they still have tread left. Not down to the wear indicators yet, but the blades are almost all gone and they are hydroplanning more than I would like. One issue I had with these is the non-skid (tread depth) isnt very deep to start, not like most A/T tires (around 10/32 instead of 13-14/32). Slight noise increase, but not much. Handle suprisingly well even with the larger P285/60R18 size. Good grip in all conditions. They are getting a little noiser with wear, but have worn very evenly. Guess the only other issue is the ride. They larger size increase the pneumatic stiffness (more air volume) but also these tires have a very square mold shape (profile) which isnt very good for ride (impacts are really "sharp" and pronounced) moreso with wear since the tread blocks are stiffening with less of them remaining. Awesome looking tire, best as far as Im concerned. Might try the P285/60R18 Summitomo tires next.
In my opinion they wear great. I hit 73k and put them on probably 3 years ago around 40k. Noise is not an issue at all.
Highly recommend for appearance and dry/wet conditions. Not the best snow tire but they work.