I don't know enough about sizing. Does anyone know if 235/65 18 will fit on our VX's, stock 18 rims without trimming?
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I don't know enough about sizing. Does anyone know if 235/65 18 will fit on our VX's, stock 18 rims without trimming?
Can use this handy website to start getting any idea of what fits and how it will fit. Enter stock and then the size you're considering and read the table below the diagram.
Stock is 245/60-18 (for 2000 and 2001), wheel offset is +38, 18"x7" rims.
http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp
they should fit fine, but i personally would not go any narrower than 245. is there a reason you are looking at this size?
They gonna look like Wagon wheels lol Put some wide meat on them badboys
As I said not to familiar with tire sizing, did not realize that 235's vs 245's would make that much of a difference.
kat, thanks for link.
Sure :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Daly
Forgot to mention ---> For reference, I have 285/60-18s on my OEM rims, and have 265/60-18s on my aftermarket Borbet rims to give you some perspective on what different sizes look like.
I realize YOU may have no interest in LARGER tires, so these pics are just to help you better understand what different sizes will look like.
285/60-18s:
http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...ooper+zeon+ltz
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/sh...60/ppuser/3558
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/sh...41/ppuser/3558
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/sh...08/ppuser/3558
***keep in mind these aftermarket rims have -2 offset, so they stick out much further than the stock rims. These are 265/60-18 tires ***
http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...3&postcount=11
And to fit 285/60-18s on STOCK truck, NO other changes, all you have to trim is this:
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/sh...71/ppuser/3558
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Daly--- Hmmm, I get a very strong feeling from your post(s) that you absolutely do not want to trim anything on your VX for your new set of tires. Remember, our OEM tires are 245/60R18 @ 29.5" O.D. Okay, then seriously consider these two(2) tire sizes as an OEM replacement below:
A. 285/50R18 (29.2" O.D.). These tires will fit bolt-on perfect on the OEM 18x7 rims without issue and shouldn't require any trimming whatsoever because they are actually a tiny bit smaller in O.D. These tires are -0.15" smaller (measured from top & bottom of tire) from OEM stock. The problem from already being smaller from the start is that they will only get smaller as the tire tread wears down from brand new.
B. 285/55R18 (30.0" O.D.). These tires will fit bolt-on perfect on the OEM 18x7 rims without issue and shouldn't require any trimming whatsoever because they are only +0.25" bigger (measured from top & bottom of tire) from OEM stock. As the brand new tire tread eventually wears down they will only become closer-n-closer to the OEM O.D. of 29.5". The question that arises is-- Do I have an extra 0.25" (1/4 of an inch) of extra wheel well space within the front wheel well to clear these tires from rubbing using my OEM 18x7 rims??? You're damn right you do!!! Try turning your steering wheel hard left and hard right and then take a peek inside your front wheel wells to see how much extra tire clearance already exists from your current OEM tires.
The advantage of using the 285 width series is that it will give your VX a much wider stance, better look, better handling performance and will still easily fit onto the OEM 18x7 rims.
I highly recommend the following tire make/model for your VX in either 285/50R18 (29.2" O.D.) or 285/55R18 (30.0" O.D.).
The MAXXIS - MARAUDER MA-S1
http://www.maxxis.com/AutomobileLigh...-Marauder.aspx
Where to buy: http://www.onlinetires.com/
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The only problem with a tire this wide with this short aspect ration, is that our rims are not really wide enough. They recommend 9" (8"-10" range), and ours are only 7". I ran Pirelli Scorpion Zero 285/55-18 tires on my VX, and they looked OK, but just didn't feel right. I would NOT recommend them. Absolutely no trimming required, though. I've backed off to 265/60-18 Kumho's and feel these are perfect for unmolested cladding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riff Raff
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Originally Posted by Cobrajet
Excellent news!!! Exactly what I thought that the 285/55R18 (30.0" O.D.) shouldn't require any cladding trim. The Pirelli's may have a different "feel" than the Maxxis - Marauder MA-S1. True fact about the rim width versus tire, but it has been poven here many times over that our OEM 18x7 rims can still handle the wider 285 series width without issue. The narrower OEM rim helps prevent the tires from rubbing when turning lock-to-lock. Thanx.
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Wouldn't that figure be more like 0.75" (3/4 of an inch)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Riff Raff
A 285 tire is 40mm wider than a 245 tire (even if an aspect ratio is chosen that results in the overall diameter being the same as stock)
And when 25.4mm = 1", 40mm = ~1 3/4", which divided by 2 will result in an extra 3/4 width of tread at both the front and the backs of the rims when mounted that will be looking for extra fender well clearance.
When considering different size tires on the same rims, the overall shape of the rim/tire combo as a three dimensional object has to be considered, not just the two dimensional height and width as viewed from the side of the vehicle.
285/60/18 has been fit many times on our OEM rims because of the taller sidewall. As cobrajet pointed out, when you reduce that aspect ratio, the fact that a 285 is too wide for our rims becomes more apparent. I wouldnt put a 285 on with anything less than a 60 sidewall. It will deform the tire and reduce its handling characteristics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Riff Raff
Daly, i don't think you said before what your intentions were for the new tires. Is there a particular look you are going for, or a performance/handing characteristic you are looking for?
For a "beefy" look a 285/60/18 looks fantastic and requires very little modification to the cladding
For a more aggressive look but less extreme, a 265/60/18 gives a wider stance and taller profile but with no need for modification to the cladding
if you are going for gas mileage, a skinny tire is better but i wouldnt go any skinnier than the factory 245/60/18
if you are going for performance/handling a 255/55/18 or 255/60/18 would give you a wider tire without introducing a ton of weight or sidewall flex.
keep in mind these general rules....
wide tires give good traction in dry and very deep mud/snow (when you cant reach solid surface underneath) Wide tires also reduce gas mileage and add weight
skinny tires improve gas mileage but decrease dry traction. They also resist hydroplaning better. For mud and snow skinny tires push through and get to the road for better traction.
taller sidewalls protect your rim better and make the vehicle look more aggressive
shorter sidewalls help improve handling and allow you to "feel the road" (and bumps) more
tire sizing 101:
245/60/18
245 = tire width in mm
60 = aspect ratio (ie 60% of width) per sidewall.
18 = rim diameter in inches
so 245 x 0.60 = 147mm sidewall (5.79 inches)
5.79" + 18" + 5.79" = 29.58" overall diameter
Again, I know *I* am in the GLARING minority here, but I went with the STOCK size; specifically Continental Cross Contact. I've gotten 51K miles on them (yeah, all paved miles) and will prolly get ~3-5K more miles on them - at which time I will put the very same brand and size back on! Continental tires are VERY well-made (in Germany - D'uh!); I run 'em on my bicycles too...
"Hey Pops - Better get home - your soup's gettin' cold...":bwgy:
Okay, then this might be a better alternative-- 275/55R18 @ 29.8" O.D. It's damn near exactly the same O.D. as OEM (29.5"), and the 275 series width is much more comforable on a 7" wide rim.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes
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