Burnt out window motor

[David Wiltshire]

Took the VX to an auto electrician today and they managed to get the passenger side (left for a JDM) working but concluded that the switch on the door arm rest must be cooked as well. I may be wrong but I'm guessing that the USA based cars have a different unit but just in case does anyone have a photo of the drivers side window switch assembly. It's a long shot as I read 2 door RHD on the back.

[rowhard]

oi mate, here is a photo of the US spec passenger side, RH window switch in the door handle, hope that helps.:)

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_0008.JPG (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=7534)

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/IMG_0009.JPG (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=7535)

If you can get your hands on the US one, you can pop it out to use on your offside door I think, maybe

[David Wiltshire]

Thanks for that, it won't be suitable so I guess I'll have to source a proper RHD unit.

[rowhard]

Thanks for that, it won't be suitable so I guess I'll have to source a proper RHD unit.

I meant the cream colored switch box that is attached to the black handle. It's not the same as your JDM?

[David Wiltshire]

I don't think the position of the single lock switch ahead of of the two window switches would be in the correct position. Thinking about it I may be able to blank off the lock switch altogether can't see it's much use.
On the back of the ivory coloured block it does say RHD so anything else may not be correct.

[yellowgizmo99]

Wonder if you could use our drivers side and just have the switches be not correct left to right. The window (driver and passenger side) part would be on the wrong side.

[David Wiltshire]

Wonder if you could use our drivers side and just have the switches be not correct left to right. The window (driver and passenger side) part would be on the wrong side.

I thought that as I could disable the lock button. Anyone know where the best place is for a window motor and window switch nowadays?

[tom4bren]

I think I have a used motor ... but I don't have any switches.

[David Wiltshire]

I think I have a used motor ... but I don't have any switches.

Thanks Tom I would be happy to buy it off you, has anyone removed the motor and tried to get it re-furbished or is that a waste of time. If new motor supplies become limited is it worth looking into an alternative?
Do St Charles Isuzu still carry all of the parts still? I know Merlin was a great help when I phoned up years ago but do they still have an active working parts department for the VX?

[johnnyapollo]

Merlin went to work for Tesla so he's no longer at St Charles - also the Isuzu parts section is no longer available online for St Charles so I'm not sure if they're still offering Isuzu parts. Still worth a call I think. About the motor - I believe you can just replace that part of the unit but I'm not sure.

[WyldWeasel]

I called St Charles looking for U Joints a few weeks ago. They are no longer carrying any Isuzu parts. I sourced them from Scarff Isuzu in Washington at http://www.partswebsite.com/isuzuparts/ (http://www.partswebsite.com/isuzuparts/)

[David Wiltshire]

I called St Charles looking for U Joints a few weeks ago. They are no longer carrying any Isuzu parts. I sourced them from Scarff Isuzu in Washington at http://www.partswebsite.com/isuzuparts/ (http://www.partswebsite.com/isuzuparts/)

Thanks for that I've just sent an enquiry asking if they ship to the UK.

[tom4bren]

Thanks Tom I would be happy to buy it off you, has anyone removed the motor and tried to get it re-furbished or is that a waste of time. If new motor supplies become limited is it worth looking into an alternative?

I'll dig it out tomorrow. Which side do you need (Left or Right).

There should be places that could rebuild the electric motor but it's probably not cost effective. I'm guessing that the motor is probably the same as on other Isuzus even though the regulator is different.

I'll see if there are any idenitfying #s on the motor when I pull it off of the regulator.

I'm thinking that our major problem is the regulator & possibly the upstream electrics so finding an alternative to the OEM motor probably isn't worth too much effort.

[David Wiltshire]

I'll dig it out tomorrow. Which side do you need (Left or Right).

There should be places that could rebuild the electric motor but it's probably not cost effective. I'm guessing that the motor is probably the same as on other Isuzus even though the regulator is different.

I'll see if there are any idenitfying #s on the motor when I pull it off of the regulator.

I'm thinking that our major problem is the regulator & possibly the upstream electrics so finding an alternative to the OEM motor probably isn't worth too much effort.

Thanks,
Its a right hand side motor, I did send off an enquiry with the Isuzu dealer listed above for a new one.
Is it easy to separate the motor or does the whole thing supporting the window have to be removed as it was so long ago I originally did mine.

[tom4bren]

Sorry, but I've actually never removed the motor from the regulator. I don't know how easy it would be to do with the regulator still mounted in the door. I'll try to get a feel for that when I pull the motor tomorrow. AFAIK there is only a couple of screws holding the motor to the regulator.

[VX KAT]

I thought that as I could disable the lock button. Anyone know where the best place is for a window motor and window switch nowadays?


I think I have a used motor ... but I don't have any switches.


Thanks Tom I would be happy to buy it off you, has anyone removed the motor and tried to get it re-furbished or is that a waste of time. If new motor supplies become limited is it worth looking into an alternative?
Do St Charles Isuzu still carry all of the parts still? I know Merlin was a great help when I phoned up years ago but do they still have an active working parts department for the VX?

I'm not clear David.....are you after the beige electronic module that's attached to the black switches, OR are you after the actual motor for the WINDOW? Or both?

Here's closeup pics of the window motor attached to the window regulator. It's super easy to remove the motor, it's just those 3 brass colored screws.
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DSCF1183.JPG

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/DSCF1196.JPG

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/photokat4/PARTS/DSCN3956.jpg

In case somebody is looking for used WINDOW MOTORS, here's BOTH ON EBAY for a VERY reasonable price!
LEFT SIDE (US Driver side)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ISUZU-VEHICROSS-LH-WINDOW-MOTOR-drivers-side-1999-2001-/321391400638?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

RIGHT SIDE (US Passenger side)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ISUZU-VEHICROSS-RH-WINDOW-MOTOR-passenger-side-1999-2001-/321391401370?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123


Here's close up pics of the US spec window button modules, in case it helps you decide if you can mod it to work for you.
http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/photokat4/PARTS/DSCN8753.jpg

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/photokat4/PARTS/DSCN7473.jpg

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/photokat4/PARTS/DSCN7480-1.jpg

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/photokat4/PARTS/DSCN7477.jpg



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[VX KAT]

oh, forgot to mention....david if you need something and they won't ship to UK, I can do it for you.

[David Wiltshire]

Thanks Sue,
Helpful as usual, I've bought the motor on e-bay you found, because the price I was quoted for a new one scared me to death.
I am giving my friend the beige module to see if he can sort it because the USA models are different so may blow the new motor.

[tom4bren]

I've bought the motor on e-bay

I assume that you don't need mine then?

[David Wiltshire]

I assume that you don't need mine then?

Sorry heat of the moment.

[tom4bren]

OK. Just checking. Looks like I need to re-build that regulator anyway. Binding on Proton's right side now.

[David Wiltshire]

OK. Just checking. Looks like I need to re-build that regulator anyway. Binding on Proton's right side now.

The price of a new one is scary to get over to the UK.

Thankfully Sue is around to ease the pain.

I have withdrawn the car from sale as the Cayenne Turbo S purchase has fallen through, must be Karma so the old girl is staying and I'm spending a bit of time and money on her.

[VX KAT]

Electric Window switches on ebay.
PHENOMENAL PRICE! $99 for both left and right.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=221431190020&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/bVIAAOxyc2pTY97f/$_57.JPG

[David Wiltshire]

Thanks Sue,
The USA models seem to be completely different to the JDM, a friend of mine who is into electronics has offered to take mine apart and see what he can do.