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psychonectar
01/01/2014, 11:09 PM
I was almost positive that I read a post on here in which somebody had a photo of some larger/stainless cladding bolts used on his VX. Anybody else use this style of bolts? Pics?

tysamigo
01/02/2014, 06:42 AM
Yes, I have and LOVE THEM much better. I will post what I used once I get home and find the paperwork...

psychonectar
01/02/2014, 08:40 PM
Thanks man, I'd love to hear more about these. Any pics of them on your VX?

tysamigo
01/03/2014, 12:26 PM
My freaking new Tablet won't charge and I have 300 of the latest pics on there from my VX restoration!! And the battery is dead...

I will try to take a few new shots, but I've been documenting (with HUNDREDS of pics) the restoration of my VX (now going on 2 years in the garage). I'm almost done, just putting on special effects (ufo led lighting, fog machine, fire from exhaust, etc) which WILL BE DONE BEFORE MOAB... because Im definitely going this year.

I'll post ya a few pics over the weekend along with Fastenal's part number.

Ty

evillecutter
01/03/2014, 01:51 PM
didnt someone have spiked replacement bolts for their cladding? something like this:

http://www.fat300customcycles.com/products/all-spikes.jpg

tysamigo
01/03/2014, 03:44 PM
didnt someone have spiked replacement bolts for their cladding? something like this:

http://www.fat300customcycles.com/products/all-spikes.jpg

I like the spikes, but how would they fasten?

Scott Larson
01/03/2014, 05:41 PM
Boltin' 'em on isn't the problem, a rubber glove for grip and some blue locktite to secure 'em works fine as you don't crank 'em down that tight. The problem can be removal after several years worth of corrosion! :_brickwal

psychonectar
01/04/2014, 10:05 AM
Those spikes would be an awesome Lil touch to the appearance. Did you use them on yours scott? If so, where can try be purchased man?

44ficus44
01/04/2014, 10:27 AM
i actually have the spikes on my VX. looks great. bought them off ebay they were for motorcycles but fit just fine. it was like $2- for a full set.

44ficus44
01/04/2014, 10:30 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Silver-Motorcycle-Spike-Fairing-Bolts-Kit-fit-2002-2003-Yamaha-YZF-R1-YZF-R1-/350968825885?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item51b75f481d&vxp=mtr

JUST MAKE SURE YOU ASK THEM FOR THE THICKER BOLTS . they send you half thin and half thick, but the thin ones look too small.

psychonectar
01/04/2014, 12:17 PM
You rock! Thanks man!

psychonectar
01/04/2014, 04:46 PM
Any pics of these spike bolts on your vx?

tysamigo
01/04/2014, 05:14 PM
I like how these turned out. The spikes look great, but I don't think they are stainless. Personally I prefer long lasting, trouble free and this is what I came up with... I do like the look of the spikes... if only they were stainless...

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/2/thumbs/SS_Screw_small.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=24366)

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/2/thumbs/SS_Screw_2_small.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=24363)

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/2/thumbs/SS_Screw_3_small.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=24364)

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/2/thumbs/SS_Screw_4_small.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=24365)

JHarris1385
01/04/2014, 06:14 PM
Ty, where did you order those?

Mile High VX
01/04/2014, 06:47 PM
Ty, where did you order those?

From his picture post:

Stainless Steel Cladding Screw Replacement. Fastenal Part # 0171864 SS FSQ SMS 12X1

tysamigo
01/04/2014, 06:56 PM
Ty, where did you order those?


From Fastenal. You can order and ship direct to store (or to your home for a little more $$). I labeled the pic itself with the part number for future reference.

Fastenal Part# 0171864

It's a Robertson Head, stainless 12x1" basically. I've searched and the best place to get the screws is Fastenal.

NOTE: I noticed that when I tried to screw them into some of the original grommets, that the grommets had deteriorated as they were the originals. Isuzu decided to use the most expensive type of grommet which comes with a small rubber seal around the plastic grommet so that it provides resistance to help keep it sturdy and to help protect the paint. I would suggest grabbing some new grommets as well, that is... if you notice they are loose OR the rubber around the base is deteriorated or gone.

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/Cladding_Grommet.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=24367)


There are many cheapies out there, but they won't have the rubber seal. These are an exact match to OEM except they are 2mm longer, which is better. Just google Auveco 21324 and you can find them online. They come in boxes of 15. Fastenal can order them, but they will likely be MORE expensive (maybe even double price).

I've shopped at both of these places and are very nice to go to for things like this. I've also used an eBay store (forgot the name) that also has this kind of grommet stuff...try these...

http://shopsite.hypermart.net/ss11.2/sc/productsearch.cgi?storeid=*0e8ea44a086127005f&called_from_results=&orig_search_field=&index_items=&search_field=21324&Search.x=-15&Search.y=-363

http://www.thecliplink.com/auveco-catalog/new-products/june-2011/nissan-screw-grommet.html

JHarris1385
01/05/2014, 01:43 PM
Thanks for the info!

I need to replace my screws.
And when UHaul put my hitch on they forgot to put the screws back under the rear door.

44ficus44
01/05/2014, 05:12 PM
Any pics of these spike bolts on your vx?

http://postimg.org/image/62lfdyqgn/

try zooming inn. You can see the spikes on this pic.

tysamigo
01/05/2014, 06:25 PM
And when UHaul put my hitch on they forgot to put the screws back under the rear door.


Which ones? Where are they located?

JHarris1385
01/06/2014, 11:12 AM
When you open the rear door its the four bolts that screw into the cladding. You cant see them without the door open though.

tysamigo
01/06/2014, 12:33 PM
When you open the rear door its the four bolts that screw into the cladding. You cant see them without the door open though.


Yes, 2 choices:


1.) Stock Replacement
Description: Body Bolt
Exact Description: M6-1.0 x 25 Phosphate 24mm Washer O.D. Hex Head SEMS Body Bolt
Manufacturer: Auveco
Auveco Part # 12066

I purchased mine from Fastenal but they can be found elsewhere.
Fastenal Part # 0162791
or click here
http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/details/0162791?searchMode=productSearch&zipcode=&filterByStore=&filterByVendingMachine=&productSearchQueryString=term%3D0162791%26searchMo de%3D

These are ok and I did use them for most of the restore, HOWEVER the rear bolts, the exact ones you describe, I personally used stainless steel on those. I liked the way it looked AND it will never rust (which is likely due to their rear location).


2.) Stainless Steel Replacement
In this case you need:

Stainless Body Bolts
M6-1.0 x 25mm DIN 933 Class A2 Stainless Steel Cap Screw
Fastenal Part# M82550025A20000
or click here

http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/details/M82550025A20000?searchMode=productSearch&zipcode=&filterByStore=&filterByVendingMachine=&productSearchQueryString=term%3Dm82550025a20000%26 searchMode%3D

Stainless Fender Washers
Fastenal Part# 1171212
1/4" x 1.000" 18-8 Stainless Steel Fender Washer
or click here

http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/details/1171212?searchMode=productSearch&zipcode=&filterByStore=&filterByVendingMachine=&productSearchQueryString=term%3D1171212%26searchMo de%3D

You will also need 2-3 smaller washers for far left and far right bolts
Fastenal Part# MW6380000A20000
M8 DIN 125 Stainless Steel A2 Flat Washer
or click here

http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/details/MW6380000A20000?searchMode=productSearch&zipcode=&filterByStore=&filterByVendingMachine=&productSearchQueryString=term%3DMw6380000a20000%26 searchMode%3D



NOTE
You probably already know this, but in case someone else that's reading does not... I highly recommend using something like Anti Seize. I use it EVERY TIME that I screwed a bolt/screw into the frame of the VX. This is to protect and to ensure that rust won't develop in the threads or on the bolt/screw.
I also purchased it at Fastenal but can be bought elsewhere.

Anti-Seize made by LocTite
Fastenal Part# 62701
or click here

http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/details/62701?searchMode=productSearch&zipcode=&filterByStore=&filterByVendingMachine=&productSearchQueryString=term%3D62701%26searchMode %3D

wekilled
01/06/2014, 02:51 PM
I use the spiked license plate fasteners:

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showfull.php?photo=22656

I have since added gloss nylon black toilet washers behind them (and painted the fasteners satin black)

It is subtle but I like the look. (I am going for a black on black look.)

Daly
01/10/2014, 07:57 AM
Ty,
What was the stainless screw part number at fastenal?

tysamigo
01/10/2014, 09:57 AM
Ty,
What was the stainless screw part number at fastenal?

Which screw? Used for what? For the side cladding pieces?

SilverBullet75
01/10/2014, 07:52 PM
Hi guys
Here's a thread on what I did on mine.
http://vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?t=19287

psychonectar
01/11/2014, 09:35 PM
Hey wekilled. I have to say, I love how the anti-theft locks look on your VX. I found out that the Advance Auto store near me carries them in 4-packs. I'm just curious about the furniture inserts in your pic. So, will I need to purchase those furniture inserts in order to get the spiked license plate bolts to fasten into the vx frame as well? Did you have to take your cladding off the frame for this tiny upgrade, for any of this fastener swap business? Are the stock plastic fasteners behind the cladding to small or something? How about the smaller stock cladding bolt near the gas tank door, did you have any problem with the length of the spiked bolt there? Thanks man, I really appreciate your help with this- Mike

wekilled
01/13/2014, 08:07 AM
Here are the latest photos for mine. I raised the spikes with black nylon toilet washers and also satin painted all of the Bell license fasteners. (Sorry, I didn't bother to wash her before snapping a few photos). I sent you an email on how to do the spikes and where I got all the parts. Not really a functional mod but I like the look compared to the torx screws.
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/medium/VXspike1.jpg
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/VXspike2.jpg

tysamigo
01/13/2014, 11:38 AM
Hey Wekilled...

Do they actually HOLD the cladding on? Are you using double-sided tape as well? Is the cladding TIGHT up against the VX? They LOOK great, but just from the pics and knowing what they are made of, it appears they are not very strong and they will chip/corrode over time and have to be replaced occasionally.

I like the look, but for me personally, I went with the stainless Robertson Head screw because it will never have to be replaced or touched.

Daly
01/13/2014, 12:00 PM
Ty,
I was talking about chrome screws to hold on cladding around vehicle.
Fastenal part number?

wekilled
01/13/2014, 01:49 PM
Hey Wekilled...

Do they actually HOLD the cladding on? Are you using double-sided tape as well? Is the cladding TIGHT up against the VX? They LOOK great, but just from the pics and knowing what they are made of, it appears they are not very strong and they will chip/corrode over time and have to be replaced occasionally.

I like the look, but for me personally, I went with the stainless Robertson Head screw because it will never have to be replaced or touched.
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The fasteners wont chip. Corrosion is another issue and that is why I painted them. I found a decent powder coat place here so that is the ultimate goal. They are attached to the body stronger than with the cheap plastic inserts, the inserts I used are fine thread metal and the inserts are epoxied into the existing holes. The cladding is snug up against the body just like stock. It is an afternoons worth of work for nothing more than a cosmetic change (and expensive) with no real advantages--but it is part of the VX madness, and I like that nobody else (yet) has done this mod. I knew I wanted a spike of sorts, but nothing sharp and wanted to to look like it might have possibly come stock that way.

wekilled
01/24/2017, 11:20 AM
That was me. I used furniture inserts in the body in place of the plastic inserts, then I used toilet washers and license plate security bolts.
http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=24487&title=cladding-spikes&cat=500

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=24487&title=cladding-spikes&cat=500

wekilled
01/24/2017, 11:28 AM
There are actual metal (furniture) inserts epoxied in place of the cheap plastic body inserts. Then the license plate spikes screw in with a wrench (washers behind them) So no double sided tape. All metal, so stronger than stock.