Moab Or Bust....BUST It Is :(

[JoFotoz]

Got about 90 miles into an 800 mile trip.......


......and ;puke2;
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http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/Broken_Whore_003.JPG (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=22393)
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AAA flat bed home...blown rear pinion seal (at the very least!)..
........no way to fix her in time to drive again.


SO........

I'm Flying :)

Near enuff same price as gas..and I NEED the break.

I land at Moabs "HUGE" international airport at 1:18 Sunday ..
....from Denver...Flight 7176 "Great lakes" air/Frontier link.

Anyone wanna pick me up.....???


:_brickwal :_mecker:

Jo

[Triathlete]

Rent a heep? :D

[Mile High VX]

Sorry to hear your rig won't make it...but you'll still have a great time!

[VX KAT]

I'll probably be rolling in about then....how much crapola do ya have with ya??

1 bag 2 bags?? Or maybe I'd have time to drop some of my crapola off real quick to make some room, and come get ya....

Let me know.

469-964-5724

[Y33TREKker]

That sucks jo. $#!+ happens though and you move on.

Kudos for not allowing it to ruin your entire trip.

[JoFotoz]

WOW..this site rocks!

I've had phone calls/PM's and e-mails...offering a hearty THAT SUXS...

....and a ride from the airport!

All set...Gill & CeCe are on the Stoop already..

....and will grab me tomorrow from the airport.

MANY THANKS...to all of you.


:thumbup:

Jo

[JoFotoz]

Thanks Trekker...


That sucks jo. $#!+ happens though and you move on.

Kudos for not allowing it to ruin your entire trip.


Like I say..I REALLY need this break...

...so onward we go!

Jo

[nocturnalVX]

Yup... I'll pick you (and any & all stuff) up tomorrow. The VX is pretty much empty, so don't worry about bringing too many bags...

[VX crazy]

Jo, Jay said you have a ride with him all week if you want.......

[JoFotoz]

Sweet..thank him for me.


Jo, Jay said you have a ride with him all week if you want.......

I'm all verklempt with all the offers of rides and help.

I may just see if there are any newbies that want a co-pilot/spotter with a bit of experience...

...a bit of "pay it back" dont'cha'know.

....:_beer:

Jo

[Ldub]

But REAL glad you're gonna be there anyway!

You already know you've got shotgun with me or Jim...:yes:

wE'RE IN g jUNCTION @ THE BEST WESTERN (grande river inn) rm 102.

Anyone wanna get together tonight, have the frt desk ding our room.

FWIW...my pinion seal started leaking yesterday...:upsetgray

I'm just gonna feed it oil till it blows, or till we get home, whatever comes next...:uhohgray:

[MSHardeman]

Jo, so glad you'll be there even if the Whore can't make it.

It always surprises me, and I don't know why because this is one of the best bunch of people around, at the generosity of everyone here. It doesn't surprise me, however, that Gill and Cece offered to pick you up. Those two epitomize the term "good people".

See you Sunday.:dan_ban:

[Mile High VX]

It doesn't surprise me, however, that Gill and Cece offered to pick you up. Those two epitomize the term "good people".


Just met them today and whole heartedly agree...:bwgy::smilewink:bgwo::bgwb:

[JoFotoz]

Yup...LOTS of good people here.

Gill and CeCe have already taken root on the stoop...:rolleyes:
...so their offer was the easiest too organise.

But like I said...a BIG thanks to all.

Jo

[MSHardeman]

Jo, just thought of the important stuff.....are there any adult beverages that I can pick up for you on my way in tomorrow? Figured you wouldn't be able to fly with a gallon of Mount Gay.:bwgy:

[JoFotoz]

LOLOLOL...the IMPORTANT STUFF!


Jo, just thought of the important stuff.....are there any adult beverages that I can pick up for you on my way in tomorrow? Figured you wouldn't be able to fly with a gallon of Mount Gay.:bwgy:

I'm good.....packing a checked bag that may have a wee bottle in it!

Thanks for the thought!

jo

[Dumke]

BAH late to the party. I saw this news else where. Glad your still going. Also like everyone said before your more than welcome as my copilot.

[pbkid]

I'm just happy to see that your still going to come out :_beer:

You know we can always find a co-pilot seat in this group :)

[tomdietrying]

Jo,
Have a safe trip.
Peace.
Tom

[nfpgasmask]

Joe, is this related to you 4.77 swap or do you just think it is something that happened?

Bart

[JoFotoz]

Yup I do...


Joe, is this related to you 4.77 swap or do you just think it is something that happened?

Bart

...possibly pinion angle...blocked breather in diff...bad pinion bearing...or ??

I;ll figure it out when I get home.

This is me..from the STOOP!

jo

[tom4bren]

This is me..from the STOOP!

jo

Now don't go getting all STOOP-ed on us!!!

[lasturbo]

Jo,
Is the ORW back on the road again?

[JoFotoz]

Hiya Larry...


Jo,
Is the ORW back on the road again?


The ORW is not talking to me...

...somebody told her I drove a jeep for two days.

She's pissed!

Gonna have to buy her new shoes, probably a new outfit and no doubt ....

....some elective surgery to her rear end .... just to placate her !


Right now she's pushing me around town in 2wd...the rear 4:77 third is a mess...

...blown bearing, chipped gears...general destruction

Will start looking for 'the cure' next week....

Jo

[nfpgasmask]

Jo,

Can you give an explaination of what exactly happened and how you think it can be avoided? I have a pair of 4.77s here for my VX, and I do not want them to blow up!!

Bart

[JoFotoz]

Will do Bart...


Jo,
Can you give an explaination of what exactly happened and how you think it can be avoided? I have a pair of 4.77s here for my VX, and I do not want them to blow up!!
Bart

...as soon as I figure it out!

Early diagnosis is tending towards...

Damaged Pinion bearing.

( garage that helped..#well..I helped them!#... made an error..
moved VX without rear seal/nut or drive shaft.....causing rear pinion
to rotate out of alignment, and the diff to lock up...very possibly
damaging pinion bearing)

Overtightened pinion nut on new crush washer.

Unbalanced rear drive shaft, causing seals to blow.

CSI ( catastrophic immobility investigation)...continues!

To be safe though Bart.......
.....best thing for you to do...


...is send me yours :p

Jo

[nfpgasmask]

If I wanted to make you really jealous, i would send you a photo of the two pairs I have sitting on my garage floor right now. ;)

One pair is going in the VX, and the other pair is going in the 91 with ARBs, hopefully.

So wow, lots of stuff to consider installing these, not just as simple as putting them in and being done. I thought the rear though was the easy one and the front one is the tricky one where you have to adjust the backlash, etc with that new crushwasher...???

Bart

[JoFotoz]

I'm lost for words.......


If I wanted to make you really jealous, i would send you a photo of the two pairs I have sitting on my garage floor right now. ;)
Bart

...so -:


:_mecker:

Jo

[nfpgasmask]

I'm lost for words.......
Isn't the correct phrase, "I am at a loss for words?" Come on Jo, you're from the UK, aren't you? You guys invented the English language over there. :laughing:

Anyway, I will keep an eye out for another set for you.

Bart

[JoFotoz]

Ah yes Bart, however.....

Had I said "I am at a loss for words" ....

I clearly wouldnt of been....:cool:


jo

[nfpgasmask]

Reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfq3c4Cf1Fs

:laughing:

Bart

[PK]

( garage that helped..#well..I helped them!#... made an error..
moved VX without rear seal/nut or drive shaft.....causing rear pinion
to rotate out of alignment, and the diff to lock up...very possibly
damaging pinion bearing)

Overtightened pinion nut on new crush washer.

Unbalanced rear drive shaft, causing seals to blow.

CSI ( catastrophic immobility investigation)...continues!



Jo


I guess that shop has never done diff work before??
Some pretty basic mistakes.


Bart, the amount of work depends on if you have complete differentials, or just gear sets.
And then, if you have complete diffs, are you willing to install them without changing the bearings.
As soon as you disturb the bearings and gear sets, you have to go through the whole rigamoral of setting up the mesh and backlash, and then setting the preload on the pinion bearings.

Easy to do when you know what you are doing, but rocket science if you don't.

PK

[JoFotoz]

Yea, they have...but:-


I guess that shop has never done diff work before??
Some pretty basic mistakes.



...they dont specialize in it.

Should of been very easy...

Two, fully set up 3rd members...ready to plug and play.

I'm in contact with Jerry Lemond (Isuzu Guru who built them) and the seller he built them for......

.....and we are all tending to think the pinion bearing was damaged when it was rolled off the ramp temporarily.

This is good and bad...

Bad...I still need to find new 4:77 ring and pinion :eek:

Good....the garage guys are cool, and will make good if this is the real problem.

JBTW ..PK...I hope ya make it next year...I now have a good contact in Moab...

..for fully locked jeep rubicon (:eek:) rental...without lots of trail restriction!

Cause ya gotsta drive a couple o'trails!

I'll part with the info if you cross my palm ...
...with an abundance of CHEESE twisties!

Jo

[VXIRONwoMAN]

I'm lost for words.......



...so -:


:_mecker:

Jo



Isn't the correct phrase, "I am at a loss for words?" Come on Jo, you're from the UK, aren't you? You guys invented the English language over there. :laughing:


Blame the gallon of Mount Gay...:_beer:

[PK]

JBTW ..PK...I hope ya make it next year...I now have a good contact in Moab...

..for fully locked jeep rubicon (:eek:) rental...without lots of trail restriction!

Cause ya gotsta drive a couple o'trails!

I'll part with the info if you cross my palm ...
...with an abundance of CHEESE twisties!

Jo

Jo, cheese twisties I can manage, its the air fare that hurts.


But I will be there if I am still above ground and fit enough.

I have to work out the options for flying into USA and hope I can tag a ride with someone that travels a bit of distance to get to Moab.
Then I get to see a bit more of the countryside, and share the costs with someone else.
Heck, I have about 11 months to plan this, I must have 50% chance of getting it right.

PK