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nfpgasmask
12/03/2007, 06:02 PM
I am doing a trans service this weekend, and I bought some Mobile-1 Synthetic ATF. But I bought the Mercon V fluid. Don't I need the Dextron fluid? Or is this fine? I can't remember...what do you guys recommend?

Thanks - Bart

MrCrowley
12/04/2007, 05:21 AM
I wouldn't make a move until you figure out which product you have. There are 3 mobil ATF fluids that meet the Dexron thingy, but hope this helps you out. Personally, if its not the Dexron-VI ATF, I would return it and get that product. :luck:

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Automatic_Transmission_Fluids.aspx

nfpgasmask
12/04/2007, 09:28 AM
Cool, that is what I am going to have to do, because we want Dextron in our trans, right?

Bart


I wouldn't make a move until you figure out which product you have. There are 3 mobil ATF fluids that meet the Dexron thingy, but hope this helps you out. Personally, if its not the Dexron-VI ATF, I would return it and get that product. :luck:

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Automatic_Transmission_Fluids.aspx

MrCrowley
12/04/2007, 09:49 AM
Yes, the Dexron is a GM somehow approved ATF product, and our trannies are essentially a GM product.

nfpgasmask
12/04/2007, 01:59 PM
OK, I just went to Autozone to look what ATF they have there. Just like at Kragen, there was only one Mobile-1 ATF fluid for sale. I asked the dirtbag clerk if this was the only type of Mobile-1 ATF they had, and he said that is the only formula of Mobile-1 ATF they stock...

Back home, I had 2 leftover bottles of ATF that I used for my last trans fluid change in May 2006. So here is a comparison of the two bottles. I am just wondering now if they just changed the bottle or if they stopped selling ATF with Dextron or what...

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/atf1.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/10148)

http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/data/500/thumbs/atf2.jpg (http://www.vehicross.info/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/10149)

I'm gonna check Mobile's website now and see if I can get more info...cause I am confused.

Bart

ZEUS
12/04/2007, 02:12 PM
The new bottle seems to say it works for our application in a strange and confusing way.

Chopper
12/04/2007, 02:44 PM
Take it back...get the Dex. Unless you drive hard,or an awful lot, your trans juice is still fine. You've time. The three are a Merc, a Dex, and a universal....I'd like to know the diff. What really hapens if you switch 'em?

nfpgasmask
12/04/2007, 02:44 PM
Exactly, strange and confusing. And look at this:

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Mobil_Dexron_VI_ATF.aspx

So, would I be better off with this???? It says "It is also for improved performance in 2005 and earlier GM vehicles, wherever DEXRON is specified"

Any experts out there?

Bart


The new bottle seems to say it works for our application in a strange and confusing way.

Chopper
12/04/2007, 03:00 PM
It's all friggin' voodoo. Same claims made on every product in existance. It's a synth blend, suggesting a lower price than the Mobil 1. Personaly, I'd stick to the M1 or RP.

nfpgasmask
12/04/2007, 03:03 PM
Well, that's what I am saying, they don't have the Mobile-1 DEX, jus the "universal" kind. This is at 2 different stores...

Bart


Take it back...get the Dex. Unless you drive hard,or an awful lot, your trans juice is still fine. You've time. The three are a Merc, a Dex, and a universal....I'd like to know the diff. What really hapens if you switch 'em?

Chopper
12/04/2007, 03:13 PM
Reno can't be that small, call around. No NAPA?

deermagnet
12/04/2007, 03:13 PM
Apparently, our tranny fluid has to have a G license number.

http://www.wtv-zone.com/markg/gifs/transflu.gif

Mark

Chopper
12/04/2007, 03:31 PM
Seems the newer fluids seem to cover what came before. Dex V is ok for Dex 3 and so on. At least that is what I've been led to beleive. Like I said, it's all voodoo to me....Other than swapping them out, I don't do autoboxes. The letters are important, but the Mobil1 (and I assume R.P.) seem to cover them all...I'm too lazy to walk out to the garage to read the label.:p

Ldub
12/04/2007, 03:45 PM
I don't know that I've ever seen a "G licence" on any tranny juice I've ever used, it's not on the Amsoil that I've been using. Has anyone seen it on Royal Purple or Mobile 1?
Amsoil is a universal ATF like Mobile 1 & covers GM, Ford, Chrysler & most import applications.
I do know that after using Amsoil for 20k in mine, it was spotless inside when I dropped the pan, with very little metal debris on the magnet.:thumbup:

I'd stay away from blends in favor of pure syn.

nfpgasmask
12/04/2007, 04:05 PM
Well, I think I will go to Summit tomorrow and see what they carry. I know they have the Royal Purple motor oil, so hopefully they will have the trans fluid as well...

I just need to figure out what to get before Saturday.

Bart

ZEUS
12/04/2007, 04:08 PM
Exactly, strange and confusing. And look at this:

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Mobil_Dexron_VI_ATF.aspx

So, would I be better off with this???? It says "It is also for improved performance in 2005 and earlier GM vehicles, wherever DEXRON is specified"

Any experts out there?

Bart
Doesn't every Dexron Mobil1 ATF bottle say that? I just use Royal Purple Max ATF, seems much less confusing.

nfpgasmask
12/04/2007, 04:14 PM
Yeah, I might just try that this time around...we'll see what Summit has.

Bart


Doesn't every Dexron Mobil1 ATF bottle say that? I just use Royal Purple Max ATF, seems much less confusing.

Chopper
12/04/2007, 04:41 PM
I've seen G, F, and H designations (and matched them) but only on regular Red juice.

CrnCnn
12/04/2007, 06:56 PM
The Royal Purple website said that Pep Boys is a retailer, doesnt say what versions of their brand they sell though.

ZEUS
12/04/2007, 09:12 PM
Oh, Napa started carrying RP around August of last year. I used to get 50% off of all my purchases cuz the checker at my local Napa liked me... Oh Danielle. (Shameless plug: http://www.vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?t=9380&referrerid=1999) if only she didn't smoke cigarettes. But that Napa closed, now I have to spend booku like everyone else! Hmm... maybe she was giving a bunch of guys discounts and that's why they had to close shop... :( Keep your eyes open and you can run into one of their brown bag sales - everything you can fit in the bag gets you 20% to 40% off (forget which). I got a bunch of discount RP last time I went.

MrCrowley
12/05/2007, 05:23 AM
Dude- to find the "one", and invest in stop smoking aids is much easier than finding the same "one" as a non-smoker. How many years would that take, right?:eek: Women like to train their men? Well equality CAN be a double edged sword.:p

I think the universal vs. Dexron thing is not much of a difference. You just have a lot of unneeded compounds swirling around in there. When you go to the direct Dexron application, it will just be more of the "Dexron" mystery compounds that is needed. Real world, it probably doesn't matter too much, but with our trannies' inherent weaknesses, every little bit of extra care and worrying won't hurt, right?

Does anyone know if they have upped the TH60 to a 5 speed for any applications? Hmmm.... I have a small lightbulb glowing dimly above my head right now. Lol Gotta find out about bolt patterns, and length.

Solitude
12/06/2007, 08:25 AM
Has anyone looked into AMSOIL?

nfpgasmask
12/06/2007, 08:31 AM
I think Master Dub is the only one I know who uses Amsoil...

Bart


Has anyone looked into AMSOIL?

nfpgasmask
12/06/2007, 08:32 AM
So what's the deal with the Reno local band chic??? Will she be at our Elko camping meet up?

;) Bart


Oh, Napa started carrying RP around August of last year. I used to get 50% off of all my purchases cuz the checker at my local Napa liked me... Oh Danielle. (Shameless plug: http://www.vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?t=9380&referrerid=1999) if only she didn't smoke cigarettes. But that Napa closed, now I have to spend booku like everyone else! Hmm... maybe she was giving a bunch of guys discounts and that's why they had to close shop... :( Keep your eyes open and you can run into one of their brown bag sales - everything you can fit in the bag gets you 20% to 40% off (forget which). I got a bunch of discount RP last time I went.

ZEUS
12/06/2007, 03:13 PM
Nah man... I had to give up on the dream of being a casino band groupie. It doesn't look like she is scheduled for a Wendover gig anytime next year. :( My latest prospects have been real estate agents - my favorite is the one training for the FBI! That chick is crazy sexy cool and intense! :bgwo: But she will probably be moving to DC and going under cover or something... However, next week I am headed to Vegas and meeting someone who is a dental hygenist by day and topless dancer by night!! Thanks for tuning in to "As the Zeus Turns"...

Chopper
12/06/2007, 03:20 PM
Gives a whole new meaning to "Wrong Fluid":p

nfpgasmask
12/06/2007, 07:11 PM
Well, save some good stories for our camping meet up! ;)

Bart


Nah man... I had to give up on the dream of being a casino band groupie. It doesn't look like she is scheduled for a Wendover gig anytime next year. :( My latest prospects have been real estate agents - my favorite is the one training for the FBI! That chick is crazy sexy cool and intense! :bgwo: But she will probably be moving to DC and going under cover or something... However, next week I am headed to Vegas and meeting someone who is a dental hygenist by day and topless dancer by night!! Thanks for tuning in to "As the Zeus Turns"...